Hardware and software need to be ported into iPadOS

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nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10251#Comment_10251

Creating something provides a positive experience for the creator.

The creator consumes this positive experience.

Kubrak

For that one does not need AI, iPad, ecosystem, .....

Stick and steelpot will do. Manytimes. Or just mouth and hands. Few friends in flesh make it even better.

I do not say, iPad (or generally tablet) cannot be used to make music or jam, but there are way better ways.

Kubrak

@nightjar

It indicates a unique commitment within Apple to bring in more enabling technologies related to music creation.

And how AI powered content delivering based on heartbeat count relates to music creation? More than 180 BPM and less than 55 BMP is forbided? Or what?

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nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10259#Comment_10259

I'm sure NI wants to reach a very broad range of music makers.

And here's a counter counterpoint: Even when a creator works on a tragic subject matter, they have a positive experience in the context of being creative. They get nourished by pride of craft and helping to shed light on a situation. They consume that nourishment and it is a positive factor in their life.

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nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10266#Comment_10266

Of course that happens too. But it's not the typical scenario. By a huge factor, creating is a positive experience for the creator.

Kubrak

And is it going to be positive experience on iPad?

Yes, teenagers could "make" music and present it friends. Great. And where is the business for NI?

nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10268#Comment_10268

Anyone of any age would be a potential customer for the hardware and software products that NI would make for such a creative ecosystem. If such things are attractive to them and follow through with an ongoing positive experience.. and worth whatever cost it presents to them.

Kubrak

And would not be better to add 3D or even 4D reality? One could see and feel music. Seems to be better experience than slipping fingers on tiny screen.

Or neural chips inplanted in ones skull. Should not NI start producing such a chips?

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nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/10272#Comment_10272

One area that would be interesting for NI in this new ecosystem would be a broader range of controller devices.

Since the expense of "brains" is not part of each controller.. and since the development cost of mobile "brains" software would no longer be separate from that of "desktop"... these new "dumb" controllers would be a lot more agile to bring to market.

Beyond piano keyboards and drum machine pads... a range of controller devices that use other motor skills.

Some might mimic traditional instruments...string, brass, woodwind, drums

But some might really explore other body movements... tap shoes.. gloves for finger drumming.. ankle and wrist bands for dance

Kubrak

Maybe accelerator and GPS in iPad might be used for agile music creation. Imagine, you throw iPad to Great Canyon and it will create a song before it lands. If NI cooperates with Apple on such a project the both would be happy.

D-One

@ozon said:

I like diversity. I like if others may have (different) benefits from my preferred tools. I like to have options for the tool platform. Therefore I learned to prefer Cubase over Logic, because it doesn’t lock me to Mac OS.

Same thoughts on a OS exclusive DAW and platform diversity but if you really support the latter then you would also support this OP about iPadOS compatibility, no? Otherwise, it's a "diversity but only for what I like" type of deal. The main topic is iPadOS but it could very well be Android or Linux, do you support those too?

Again, none of my opinions expressed in this thread imply that I am right and anyone else is wrong but for me it only makes sense to support multiple platforms if you can efficiently handle them all, especially the 1st one that got you a huge userbase in the first place and the made the product line successful.

Personally, I prefer when companies that make tools specialized in an area and focus their resources to make the tool great instead of having 10 unpolished sub-tools and making a paying customer feel like a beta tester... Or do you think M+ was ready for release when it came out? To me, it feels like a beta right now.

Second, the M+ forces NI to think harder about what can be done on a controller and how, which ultimately will be of benefit for all Maschine users.

Respectfully, that sounds like a preference justification rather than something that has actually yielded significant tangible results, they have been prioritizing HW control since the start, mouse dependant features were always avoided like the plague semi-officially unless there's no other practical choice... We can't even shift+up/down on a PC keyboard to change the MIDI octave, that's crazy to me.

I think touch devices or controllers in general are a failure as musical instruments: Main haptic (feedback) elements are missing and they feel way more like a piece of technology than a real musical instrument.

I don't like touch as the main input method either but the premise of this thread is for both the HW and SW to work with iPadOS, it's not to replace everything with a touch device, touch could be used where it makes sense like selecting notes, drawing automation, etc and the MK3 for everything else like it works now...

That was a lot of quotes, sorry, also always remember that if I'm disagreeing it's always with respect.