Status on m1/m2 update?
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After working in this industry for over 30 years, supporting win, mac, *nix, networks and systems, I honestly wish Apple didnt exist today or was just an OS or software vendor.
The Personal Computer was always enough, and we never had to have a second and competing ecosystem that overlaps the more inclusive one and causes chaos like *the above* on so many vendor social spaces. The innovation that Apple brings, since the day Jobs and Gates fell out and decided to build Microsoft and Apple, isnt distinct enough or innovative enough to justify this entire wasteful second ecosystem, imo. This is bigger than 2 competing tech companies, and our earth's ecosystems reflect that.
This same argument plays out everywhere and leads to angry, dissatisfied people. Much of the dissatisfaction springs forth from expectations set by tech-lite marketing hype, pop culture product placement & bourgeoise lifestyles, rather than real tech specifications and human ability. Its a shame, but under an economic system like this one, energy is wasted as a matter of principle, not by accident.
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That's a lovely sentiment but competition and having a choice is a good thing. I do not want to use or build PC computer and I do not want to use Windows operating system or Google's Android, for that matter. So thanks, but no thanks ;)
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And who needs bipedal body form? It's just crazy! Don't get me started on opposable thumbs!
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This is absurd. I've been polite, but the Apple fans here have been offered all kinds of reasoned, contrastable arguments, from people who don't even think alike, and you've answered all of them with platitudes, arrogance and disdain, on top of that having the nerve to say you're being disrespected. It's been a while since the last time I've seen this kind of bully attitude in this forum. No one wants to take your computers away, no one is stopping you from making your demands. Other people may place their inspiration, their creativity, their hopes and trust in something else than the projections of a megacorporation. The audacity!
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This is where I don't follow. There are so many products so much older than Reaktor that are in a much less zombie state, even in similar categories. Reaktor is not that old. The fact that it's been left to slowly rotten with sporadic, tenuous outbursts of life doesn't seem at all inevitable to me. But more than anything it's strange: of all the things NI has made, this is among the big ones. And yet the company seems to drag it like a curse. People in these kind of forums tend to speak of companies as if they were driven by some kind of deep, inscrutable good sense, but looking at the last 5 or 6 years, I just can't see it. It's not like companies have never been destroyed by their own management...
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Competition and choice - at all costs - is part of a particular 'lovely' philosophy, yes. Everyone knows all about it, lol. You may have noticed that philosophy faltering a little as of late, but now is as good a time as ever before to do nothing about it, yes. ; )
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I think we’ve drifted enough from main topic as it was, best not to make it political now ;)
Let’s just say that we have to agree to disagree regarding your previous post and this one…
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So once again, time will tell but for now we have 2 facts. First is users asking for AS support and second is NI making it a priority for Kontakt and Traktor. From that we can wonder if it’s a “whole catalog” priority or if it will mean “legacy those which can’t be ported” (and let’s hope similar tool get released).
It is understandable, that NI prioritises Kontakt and Traktor. Kontakt is used by Pros and there is not way to replace it cheaply.... Traktor is also used by Pros, NI tries not to lose them...
Not ported synths and effects... It hurts, but it may be replaced by other plugins Pro user has or in the worst case he buys something similar...
And I guess NI will try to make customers to "pay" for AS native support. For example NI could release major versions of interesting plugins.... and not release AS native support for older (current) version....
And it would be just fair.... Users should pay for AS transition. It is not possible to do directly, because competitors did not charge for it... But why not to get few pennies indirectly?
We will see in 5-10 weeks.
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"And I guess NI will try to make customers to "pay" for AS native support."
Considering that Kontakt went native in February, this seems rather unlikely? Sure, if Komplete 14 comes out in a few weeks and other plug-ins do get native support by then, ofc you'd have to pay. But it's not like that (i.e. holding off of releasing AS compatibility until K14) is NI's plan.
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We will see. If there will be new major versions of popular plugins (FM8, Battery, Reaktor, ....) and if current versions do not get AS native support, I would consider it as getting pennies...
Saying that, I would agree with that approach.
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I did not say, AS transition would pay just Mac users. Of course, all users. But Mac users will have higher motivation to upgrade for full price and not wait for Sale.... Win users will update in time that suits their needs, not because of technological reasons.
Well, some maybe because of VST3.
If I understand it well, all users of Traktor will get new features. But those on subscription model will get it sooner. And who cares? I still use Traktor 2, even thought I have Traktor 3 licence for several years...
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VST3, for example. We will see soon. Or not.
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How is it that Adobe was able to release their most prominent apps on Apple Silicon within months after it was released, and now, with a vastly more complicated ecosystem than NI, they have released native versions of  Photoshop, Acrobat DC, Acrobat Pro, Lightroom, Lightroom Classic, Premiere Pro, Illustrator, Adobe XD, InDesign, Character Animator, Dreamweaver, Premiere Rush, and Adobe Audition, their audio editor? Apparently, one company appreciates the fact that Apple users represent a large segment of creatives who are loyal to the platform, and the other simply looks at the number of their Windows users and says, "yeah... Apple Silicon can wait." Well it's been over 2 years, and some of us are done waiting.
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the other simply looks at the number of their Windows users and says, "yeah... Apple Silicon can wait
The fact that all other Reaktor development has completely stopped while the team put all their development resources into bringing AS support ASAP really doesn't support your narrative. But hey, don't let that limit your creative process!
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I think it's pretty old. Most other products that are still around and as old as Reaktor are true flagships that are significant to the income and potentially the survival of their developers. I don't think Reaktor really fits into that bracket.
I wish Reaktor was more actively enveloped, but I think it is something of a niche product owned by a company that is actively trying to dominate the mainstream of their market sector. There are lots of Reaktor 'users', but I would guess that many of them are really only Reaktor users as a consequence of being Komplete users, and are unlikely to have bought Reaktor as a stand alone product.
In that context, the languishing state of Reaktor makes complete sense, even though I don't like it. I'm happy that it still exists, and is still valued by NI.
I could be completely wrong about this. It's just my view as a result of the way development and maintenance has been over the years.
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