Ask me anything: Kontrol S-Series MK3
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Well, it seems like some of those who do are making it known, and wondering why we haven't.
Those who don't want faders have less of a need to ask why we haven't included them, and are relatively quiet (and/or purchasing the keyboard).
Faders are great, but didn't make sense for Kontrol S MK3.
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I can honestly say we have not tested this configuration.
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We don't plan to do this. It could get too clunky, and imply enforcing design paradigms on partner products, especially if and when they start to implement direct connection.
Rather, a cleaner break between what is desktop, and what is on device, and a UI and a UX as appropriate for the medium is our current approach.
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I appreciate your feedback on this. I really do hope it has improved. Time will tell. I will wait, as I am cautious, as this is a notable investment. I love your stuff. Love the integration.
I don't like being put off playing, by clanky mechanisms.
I will see what the 1-year reviews are like, and make my decision then?
You never mentioned my question on Right to repair, and offering up individual parts? Will this be something you will be considering in the future??
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It has a significantly revised and improved version of the TP9 and TP100.
Much older versions (developed years prior to MK2 launching) of the TP9 and TP100 were used in MK2. Things have come a long way since then.
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It has absolutely improved. But better that you be the judge - I'd hate for you to have another bad experience.
Perhaps there's a retail store nearby that has one to try, or a friend, or an event and so on?
Right to repair and the offering of individual parts is certainly a discussion we've yet to have, but should have. Particularly once a unit's out of warranty (whereby there's less of a concern a user might inadvertently void it). Philosophically, I'm way in favour of such policies and see them more as supply chain and logistics challenges than say, the reluctance with which vehicle manufacturers skirt the law. TL:DR right now, no. But with sustainability as a topic dear to many NI employee hearts, perhaps this changes.
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It lands as exactly that - useful and valid feedback.
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Those first two things there will solve issue three for me. I look forward to seeing the updates and will put my order in once they’re implemented. :-)
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Thankyou for replying, I think your answer if fair regarding Right to repair.
I am not saying every part has to be made available, but parts that would qualify as a consumable:
i.e.
- The Lubrication, grease. (just now we have to make a guess on what's best, go too thin, it doesn't last long, go to thick and it reduces the action speed of the keys.
- Foam damper strips, (Lower one) this should also be classed as a consumable, as this will wear out after 3 years or so. Becoming less resistant to the weight of the hammers, creating a louder thud, than normal.
- Screens, the screens, start to leak light at the corners over time, these are impossible to find online anywhere, there was a guy on eBay making them, but it would be safer to be able to buy there from NI direct.
1 and 2 are Important for servicing. 3 not so much. But in some cases, yes.
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What is true: we've updated Maschine software several times in the last year, including support for VST3 and Apple Silicon, and continued to fix bugs. And when we look into new features and improvements, we immediately hear about 100 different suggestions, many of which are good, not all of which we can do at once. TL:DR yeah let's have a larger Maschine conversation later this year and lurk in the forums in the meantime.
Incredibly belatedly for a major company, adding support for VST3 and Apple Silicon and bug fixing is hardly what many would call 'development' and vaguely even updates but belated mandatory necessities to be in any way viable.
Those hundred suggestions have been hanging around for 3–4 years at least, very merrily totally ignored after D-One did an excellent job on the old forum of collating and curating them.
OK, this isn't the thread for Maschine talk, but then please try and get the people who are or are not dealing with it to communicate with the users. This is getting to the stage of being majorly offensive, and it seems totally bizarre and disturbing to me that it isn't seen as being such.
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Fair enough. One extra reason to keep poking at this idea is the potential for it to be a bridge to faster development of more "scalable" and consistently "positioned" elements within the desktop windows of KK3 and Kontakt 7. Legacy art and the many different aspect ratios of instrument panels are big hurdles in the way of a better UI on the desktop. Re-using the new on-device instrument/parameter window on the desktop GUI would be a shortcut I might think. Bringing up Legacy art, window dimensions & full editing would require another click.
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You know what? It's weird to let questions build up for a week.
No it's not.
That's not really how normal forums work.
But that IS INDEED HOW "Ask Me Anythings" (AMAs) work.
You said you were busy, but honestly, 15 minutes a day would have been all it would have taken.
This is actually insulting. It would have taken a lot more than 15 minutes per day, and as I said above, that's not how "Ask Me Anything" works.
Matthew has been doing fine. And given all that he has typed and all the care he has exercised in giving good and comprehensive answers, he has already spent A TON MORE than 2 hours, which is what 15 minutes * 7 days would total up to... one hour and 45 minutes.
Sorry if you're not happy, but this is the most information we've gotten out of any NI representative in...ever! I for one am grateful and optimistic that maybe now Native Instruments is trying to turn over a new leaf and enter an era of transparency. I cheer that effort, and I won't insult anybody with a demand for 15 minutes per day. If they keep being clear and transparent with us, I'm good with it, and you should be too.
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Still looking for clarification on whether custom MIDI templates (when they get implemented) will still be limited to four pages like they were on the mk2, or allow many pages like the mk1 (at least 16…I've never hit the limit). That was one of the key reasons I skipped the mk2, so it will be a factor in deciding whether to get the mk3.
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I've reached the end of this topic for now, and I just want to say thank you to Matthew/NI, Chris/NI, and anybody else who spent time answering questions here (or helping to gather information for Matthew or Chris). When I found out that Native Instruments had a new owner, I got worried that the silence would continue.
NI was silent on Kore, B4 II, Elektrik and Akoustik, and the end of development of Guitar Rig's Rig Controller. I still think those were mistakes, but we never had the chance to discuss them. How can a person like me get settled in their heart and mind when a favorite product has all of its support just yanked away and the company won't even talk to us about that? When Guitar Rig was lost wandering in the desert for 10+ years, without even a "boo" for an update, I threw my hands up in the air and started buying stomp boxes. I mean, why bother if we're not seeing updates and we're not getting information? After forever and a day, we were all told that "oh, here's a new version of Guitar Rig, but SURPRISE! It won't work with your old Rig Control. The decision has been made and you the customer don't need to know why."
That's what it felt like. And again, we got the silent treatment from Native Instruments, so again I threw my hands up in the air and bought more stomp boxes, including a couple of Boss effects units that just about do everything without being a Kemper, lol. Today, I kind of have zero need for Guitar Rig, either current or future versions! All because we never had a conversation.
But this is a massive improvement. At least now people can HAVE THE CONVERSATION about things like faders, fingerdrum pads, or how much info to pack onto any active screen.
When we have the conversation; a real two-way conversation, then we on both ends of the conversation will have a chance to learn. And with that comes an opportunity for us as customers to gain a more useful and practical understanding of what can and cannot be done, and how much development effort would be needed.
If Native Instruments starts to slip backward, I will be one of the first to call you all out. But it sounds like "the new Native Instruments" is not being run like the old company of the same name. That's good, and I'll be cautiously optimistic going forward.
And to put my money where my mouth is, I tentatively plan to get a KK S 61, and I'm looking forward to placing my order.
Thanks again!
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