Ask me anything: Kontrol S-Series MK3
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Gold star ^^^
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Hi,
Are there any plans to open up the actual rendering protocol to NKS instrument plug-ins?
There are projects like terminar/rebellion (on GitHub) that already support sending your own image stream to the displays. However, due to the complex architecture of the NI drivers and IPC mechanisms, it's not easy to integrate this into a VST/AU.
It would be a major game-changer if this were possible, bringing us much closer to what Push 2/3 or even just the regular Maschine interaction with the displays offers. Imagine transforming waveforms or receiving proper visual feedback for different settings, or even just implementing other fancy animations to make the UX more enjoyable.
Even if NI may take some time to migrate existing plugins to this kind of infrastructure, I bet third-party vendors would follow suit immediately. You could also opt for a more "simplistic" approach like Stream Deck, where you would only expose an HTML canvas API for better isolation. Alternatively, you could follow Ableton's lead and make use of QML for a more low-level API. I already completed a simple rendering proof-of-concept some time ago that did just that, so it's feasible given the right prioritization in your backlog.
Unfortunately, I was a bit disappointed not to see such a feature with the release of the "new NKS version," even if it's just for the closed internal NI "Komplete" ecosystem.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
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Not to worry. I'll buy two, so that will make up for the one you're not going to buy.
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Maschine is a lot of things to a lot of people.
Maschine software - still supported (MAS2)
Maschine hardware - still supported (Mikro, MK3 and M+)
Despite popular opinions to the contrary seen elsewhere-on-the-internet-when-not-everything-is-done-exactly as [insert commenter] wants, we at NI are all users of the products as well. We love Maschine and continue to invest in it. There have been several updates this year already - we invest a lot into Maschine.
We're also aware that people want more/greater MOAR/BETTER updates. Totally reasonable. We're aiming to get VST3 and polyphonic aftertouch for M+ out before too long, and are looking at what we could bring to Maschine software as well. I see a lot of farming talk of seeds and planting on the page of this post, so I'll sow one...
...we have a lot of interesting technology from the likes of iZotope, Brainworx and Plug-in Alliance to dabble with now. Any thoughts on how that might show up in Maschine?
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We're gonna need a bigger boat
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That would be news to me!
That is certainly one possible plan but a lot would have to happen first. What we want to do is solve for the frustration of Komplete Kontrol (needing to use middleware) without eliminating the value (of KK as a librarian of your collection, of KK as a powerful vehicle for accessibility). Direct Connection is the start, but to eliminate KK is not inherently the logical endpoint, unless we'd brought the aforementioned solutions to a critical mass of products.
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Not specifically Maschine related but we have already had some discussion in that direction- this was my contribution
“I just had a wonderful thought. What if Native Instruments resurrected iZotope Iris? You are missing an additive spectral synth from your portfolio. You could do the same with the PPG plugins that were bought by PA then neglected or maybe even get together with the Unfiltered Audio devs who are very innovative to combine the tech into some new Additive/Spectral resampling synth to rival Logic Alchemy”
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😛😝😜🤔 I'm sold.
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Lots of fun thoughts on how iZotope technology might show up in most ALL of NI products... browsing and preset management empowered by iZotope's RX AI assisted analysis of spectral content... the mind races!
NKS 2 + iZotope RX AI analysis = preset management nirvana
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This is very much the antithesis of the customer experience we'd ever want anyone to have - and certainly not the norm. If you want to DM me to dive deeper into these frustrations, please feel free.
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Hi, author of ReaKontrol, the deep integration of the Mk2 series with Reaper DAW here.
Does the Mk3 change the DAW to keyboard MIDI protocol significantly compared to the Mk2? I am not talking about the IPC protocol just the MIDI DAW control. Would be good to know, lots of ReaKontrol users out there (can see from Github and Reaper forum).
Cheers
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It's all about perspective, of course. Please take this as productive feedback, not criticism. You can certainly have screens that don't look crowded and still provide substantially more instant visual feedback. I won't show examples here from competitors, but simply imagine your own Lores interface on that gorgeous screen - or any of the Play products. Now imagine your had a touch screen to control some of the motion. More importantly, a touchscreen also means a virtual keyboard to search through what is likely the largest library ecosystem there is. Just some thoughts.
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Ah, well, I guess that's me, on behalf of the teams. And I am a he, but my team exists across the gender fluidity spectrum so best not to assume next time.
You posted this comment verbatim on Youtube as well, to be sure you got an answer. Having said that, not every answer is going to be the answer you want to hear.
After all these years, I'm pretty darn proud of what the team came up with.
The Direct Connection to Kontakt is a massive workflow improvement. I shudder to engage in buzzwords like game-changer but it has literally changed the way people interact with and use their content libraries.
As has the next gen NKS 2 experience, a huge investment in content infrastructure that offers a much richer and more deeply expressive experience when controlling individual parameters, or navigating large groups of them.
Polyphonic Aftertouch is a beautiful touch.
So, we took the collective decision to release that.
If you'd rather, you should keep your Kontrol S88 MK2! It's a fantastic product, that ostensibly you're happy with and/or using and intend to continue to use despite the dearth of faders and pads.
Listening to customers is a never ending journey, but not the same as doing everything everyone wants. Faders and pads are super cool, but not for this product, nor the prior versions you own and use.
Arturia are fantastic, by the way. Great products. Good hardware, good software. I love their CS-80 (already on NKS 2) and use the Arturia Minifreak on gigs constantly. We can all be friends.
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And, the counter to the prior post!
All this does is confirm there being no right nor wrong en masse (at least when talking about keyboard controllers... life is a different story) but whatever product works for the individual is right by them.
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Your last four words.
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