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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,575 mod
    edited February 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/3983#Comment_3983

    IDK what statement you're referring to but yeah, of course, I don't disagree it's basic stuff, at all... there's marketing out for controlling external gear so IMO, it should have Program changes and whatever else is standard for that usage but missing key standard things happens in many, many other areas. If PC is more important than say.. having decent file management (just an example) is very subjective, that's all I'm saying, one user complaint is not more valid than the next guy, each has their personal priorities based on their workflow and needs.

    What some new folks don't seem to understand is we, the Maschine users have been complaining about 1000 other things that are also lacking for 10 years... Welcome to the club boys.

    TBH I wouldn't dare say what Maschine is or isn't anymore, I am a power-user yet IDK, imagine that... It had a specific target audience back in the day but now I have no idea what crowd they're trying to reach, trying to please everyone is a big mistake and leads to never fully pleasing any crowd and having a bunch of segments of the sw/hw sort of unfished/unpolished... M+ made this worst by splitting the audience, even more, I say this here and privately to the folks in charge but at the end of the day whatever my opinion is, it doesn't matter because it changes nothing.

  • TheLoudest
    TheLoudest Member Posts: 110 Advisor
    edited February 2022

    @D-One

    Sorry man.. My bad English forces me to go straight to the point in my posts, and sometimes it can be seen as a bit harsh...

    It is not my intention.

    Actually, you do helped me. With your explanation on the distinction between modulation and automation in the Maschine environment.

    Indeed, this is new for me, until now I have mainly known "modulations" via LFOs... Not really via a step mode (which for me was more reserved for "automations" precisely)

    But in this case a detail remains confusing.. it's when we use the "auto" button that we end up with the percentages, right? This is probably what disturbed me ("auto" being related to "automations" in my mind...)

    By the way the automations work well with internal instruments, and even if there is no visual feedback we can still see the values (the REAL values) with a long press on a pad, so it could be enough for me to automate midi parameters (including Program Change) BUT : why can't I do the same thing with macros? (edit them in step mode) is it normal? I did not manage to do it as I did for the internal instruments ...

    I would love to know because if this is not the normal behavior I WILL contact the support.

    (like someone said above, sometimes it is hard to tell what is more related to a weird implementation or simply a bug..)

  • Space Cat 303
    Space Cat 303 Member Posts: 108 Advisor

    Thank you @D-One for your very interesting explanations.


    @TheLoudest , could you explain to me how to see the real value of the automation by keeping the pad pressed please.

  • Akira-76
    Akira-76 Member Posts: 40 Helper

    @D-One

    As we say in France : c'est avoir le cul entre 2 chaises...

  • TheLoudest
    TheLoudest Member Posts: 110 Advisor

    @Space Cat 303

    I don't know if I'm the right person for this (given that I discover Maschine's workflow myself) but I'll give it a try... ;-)

    actually, you just have to use "Step" mode

    hold a step and simply turn the knob corresponding to the parameter you want to change (the dot on the screen indicates that the value is recorded and there is now an automation on that parameter)

    you can do this sequencer stopped

    but apparently it only works with internal instruments (or effects)

    I didn't manage to do it with macros...


    try to do this with the parameters of the Sampler for example

    it works pretty well I would love it works like that for the macros

    as I say above you don't have visual feedback in real time when the sequencer plays but you can check your recorded values by holding the different steps

  • Space Cat 303
    Space Cat 303 Member Posts: 108 Advisor

    Thanks to you @TheLoudest

    It's very clear, I'll try, thank you

  • TheLoudest
    TheLoudest Member Posts: 110 Advisor
    edited February 2022

    Hi guys,

    I would like to share with you something that I found (since I continue my discovery of the Maschine environment)

    we mentioned here the problem with PC/Bank messages, but in reality there are two sub-problems to this :

    1) the fact of not being able to simply automate these changes during a song

    and

    2) (maybe even worse in my opinion)

    the fact of not being able to save the various settings WITHIN the project

    and therefore having to redo the operation each time, on each synth, drummachine, step sequencer etc. of our setup

    Each time we load the project again :-/


    For the 2nd part of the problem I may have found a solution...

    Lock states!

    (or more exactly the "external lock" function, SHIFT+LOCK)

    we can easily save an unlimited number of settings and... the macros states are also saved! 🙌🙏

    we can switch from one lockstate to another by pressing the pads, and the macros values are sent each time! (ideal for recovering all our settings for the verse, chorus etc.)

    If it can help anyone...(I am well aware that this solution concerns more studio work (composition, production) and does not solve the problem of playing the whole project live (the sub-problem "1)" that I mentioned above remains intact...)

  • Julian
    Julian Member Posts: 8 Member

    Dear .NI

    Please add Bluetooth ldac

    I have m+ already bought powerbank and Bluetooth speaker it will be nice to add support for it .

    And it good to have bower bank and speaker non built in and i can use devices with other variations

    Yeah some vocal plugins it will be nice to have

    And i truly wish that slate digital and ni collab and i can use slate digital plugins on my m+ and it will no need for pc

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,821 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/4165#Comment_4165

    Bluetooth headphones or speakers will introduce considerable amount of additional latency and are therefore a less desirable solution. If they are supported, users will complain about it, for sure.

  • Julian
    Julian Member Posts: 8 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/4167#Comment_4167
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/4167#Comment_4167

    Aptx low latency ?

    Gamers have Bluetooth headset with low latency .

    And how i understand m+ 1.4 appears for less than 3 days ?

  • Matt_NI
    Matt_NI Administrator Posts: 1,130 admin
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/4052#Comment_4052

    Thanks for the feedback D!

    Curious, what do you mean by "M+ made this worst by splitting the audience, even more" ?

  • tetsuneko
    tetsuneko Member Posts: 794 Expert
    edited February 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/2432#Comment_2432

    Hey, sorry to nag about this but you said you are trying to get us info regarding the 1.4 by weekend. Do you reckon you'll still have time to do so? The weekend is almost upon us..

    thanks!

  • nicknackers
    nicknackers Member Posts: 23 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/4197#Comment_4197

    Exactly Me too! 🥳

  • Matt_NI
    Matt_NI Administrator Posts: 1,130 admin

    Here - I shared the status we have so far for the next version of both Maschine 2 and Maschine+: https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/768/coming-up-next-for-maschine-and-maschine/

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