Automation/modulation improvements
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Great to ask for feedback. A few days later, and echoing some of the previous posts, here are my top wishes:
— Touchstrip as crossfader between 2 defined Lock States (Octatrack style)
— multiple LFOs assignable to any instruments / effects settings
— Patterns auto-play modes assignable per group [>> play next at the end] [<< play previous at the end], [Random], etc.
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I think the best in class modulation/automation currently is Arturia Efx Motions. So why not use that as an idea.
5 Envelope generators with various trigger/sync modes, and then the additional 5 LFOs. They can modulate each other and the output can be assigned to any automatable parameter. Library for shapes.
Also a macro knobs, freely assignable, think Baby Audio Transit etc.
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Event/List view of automation
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The knobs are touch sensitive but the touch aspect does NOT work with DAW touch automation - for example in Logic or PT, the MkIII knobs in Host mode can write automation but don’t pass their touch state.. so you can’t really use them for proper touch automation. They should only stop writing when you let go of them.
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The touch automation is a mackie control thing, or similar protocols, on a mackie you simply flip the knobs with the faders and the faders are touch sensitive and send specific midi note signals, you can easily map it for yourself if you know a bit about mackie control and you use it for the quick controls for example, at least with cubase you can do that, it's not a native instruments fault thing.
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This is an idea which I'm not entirely sure fits in this category:
- Associate Lock States with Scenes (for performances in Ideas View)
The main idea behind this would be that Scenes can have an associated Lock State and switching between Scenes would automatically Morph between Lock State associated with those Scenes. The Morphing Time would be determined by the Performance Grid and the point in time the switch is initiated.
A similar idea is:
- Associate Lock States with their own Morphing settings
That way, each Lock State can have its own morphing settings, which is useful if e.g. Lock State 1 closes a synth filter immediately and Lock State 2 opens the synth filter over 8 bars.
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Yes! This is what I’m talking about! We need this!
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I love to perform live with MASCHINE and though these suggestions are not for automation, they would help for live situations:
1) 'AUDIO' MUTE on/off also for Groups. Just like with Sounds. To have the option to preserve tails, decays, cymbals, etc.
2) It would be useful if there was an option to MUTE or UNMUTE *without* necessary switching to a MUTE screen on hardware (thus disabling the knobs).
((While performing live, its typical to make crescendos, parameters change like pitches or filters cutoff, etc using the knobs, and at the same time MUTING or UNMUTING sounds. They way it is now, when you press MUTE the screen changes, the knobs get disabled, and the momentum lost. ))
Thanks for reading! :)
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Similar to my other comment in the other improvement thread, if I could route MIDI modulations from Reaktor in Maschine+, with proper feedback/visualization of parameter values (e.g., instead of continuous numbers that I don’t know what they mean, a knob shows the the LFO shape selected). MIDI automation from LFOs, shapers, envelopes and sequencers would all be fantastic to use standalone. You could even come up with standards for updating Reaktor ensembles so they work with Maschine + (and work with Maschine mk3 without needing to look at a computer screen), and work with creators to update popular ensembles to these standards and sell them in expansion packs.
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I just want to see the actual values as I am writing automation, not just a percentage. I really dont like estimating or calculating what value I am changing the control to. I understand that the final automation value will change, if the base value gets changed later on, so maybe just show both, or give us the option to fix the automated value to an absolute value instead of a relative one?
It is unfortunately even less user-friendly when I am automating a CC macro for an external device in the step sequencer. When doing that, it shows no value change or percentage, just nothing. Even though the changes in value are being sent. I also want to hold a step and see the current CC Macro value as it is set on this step. These changes would make using external gear a lot more pleasant.
I would also appreciate if the dots indicating an automation next to a value would be cleared when using the "Clear Auto" function (Shift+10). At the moment the automation is cleared but the dots are still there, kind of misleading you into thinking these parameters are still being automated.
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I would like to have the option that when I export individual sounds, the modulations that I have added to the group channels are also applied to them. For example, if I use the perform FX tool on my drum group and have modulated beat breaks at certain points.
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I have one main request that involves the Maschine +. Make an automation edit screen somewhere within the Events section so we can fix mess-ups, quantize automation points, or add our own based on different curves, waveforms and grid settings (for example: have a rise up/down, curve up/ down, inverted curve up/down with different waveforms that can be set to 1/1, 1/2, 1/4 , etc for slower or fast changes to automation parameters. Maybe even 2 encoders to be able set a low and high range of the parameter being automated (For example: You can set low range to 25% of Reverb mix and high range at 75% if that's what your track needs rather than only being able to go from 0-100%). This would be extremely helpful for making perfect automation clips in song mode in standalone as there is absolutely no way to edit the automation as it stands.
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When I use a EUCON surface like Avid S6 with PT or Logic, the knobs work correctly in Touch automation - as long as they're touched, they keep the same automation breakpoint. With Maschine writing as a host knob in either of those DAWs.. about a second after you stop moving it, it stops being 'touched' even though you haven't stopped touching the knob and the Mk3/M+ have touch sensitivity to the knobs. I don't know enough about the interaction between the APIs but it seems like an NI issue not a DAW issue.
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It is definitely a DAW issue, I don't know one DAW where you can map the touch parameter, and you need to do it in order to make it work as you want it to work. Like I said with the mackie protocol you have that, there is a note on signal send if you touch a fader and a note off after untouching it.
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Would like to modulate the mixer settings in M+ by using an external device like the Akai APC40 mk2 or other midi controller.
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