[New release] KONTAKT 7 is here
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Then it changed, it does not scale in a linear fixed way.
This is quite offtopic but it's not technically only "the empty space", things like the spectrum analyser, meters etc become bigger but other elements remain the same size, like fonts, the upper module blocks, % circle parameters, etc... So those things sort just get more spaced out. Personally I kind of like this approach since Ozone is so modular, so it increases what matters most bit if it's a problem then OS scaling can fix it altho it will make everything for the user bigger.
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Will Komplete 14 replace kontakt 5 and 6 or it will keep the 3 Kontakt instances 5, 6 and 7?
Thank you,
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It will do what 6 did - install as its own program.
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Does Kontakt 7 require an AVX processor as Massive X does? I'm on a 12-year-old Mac Pro on a bleeding edge version of 10.14.6 Mojave.
It still hasn't shown up in my Native Access app as being available (I upgraded to full Collector's Edition).
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Ok, I have updated to Native Access 2......Kontakt 7 still does not show up anywhere in there. Nor does Ozone 10.
Any more ideas? Or is it time for me to fill out a support ticket?
I am using a Mac with Mojave by the way....maybe those programs don't work with Mojave??
Thanks
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So Kontakt 7 is there, and I'm not impressed at all. It's a good thing I barely use anything NI anymore. But Native Instruments just doesn't know how to do GUIs well. So if someone from NI is reading this, I'm going to show you what a real HiDPI scalable GUI is.
This is Kontakt 7:
Looks better, but the text is still small and hard to read. The only thing that resizes is the window, and then the thumbnails scale in a weird way as you keep dragging the bottom right corner, they grow big, then get smaller to accommodate another column. And, you can only resize it by that bottom right corner handle, just like Mac OS 9 over 20 years ago. It's puzzling that you can't do that resizing by clicking and dragging anywhere in the border.
Then we choose an instrument, and it's the same as it always was:
And, good luck trying to read those preferences.
This is shameful. This was the great HiDPI experience you were talking about?
So, let me show you some examples of proper HiDPI scaling.
This is CS-80 V4 from Arturia. The first time you open it, it launches at 100%:
Not bad, but my 27" monitor is a few feet away, so I would prefer the text a bit larger. No problem! I just go into the menu, and choose whatever zoom size I prefer:
Now it takes up all my screen, and I can play with all those beautiful knobs and sliders without ending with a headache because I had to force my eyes.
Another example. This is the Opus engine from Eastwest. Also opens at 100% the first time:
That's a bit hard to read for me, so again, an easy fix:
So NI software engineers, THAT is how you do a real HiDPI GUI, not the half assed implementation that you did. What you did is not even HiDPI, you just put a handle to resize the window, and made the text small but slightly more readable than before. But it's just lipstick on a pig. A Frankenstein with part new GUI, part old GUI. When you select an instrument, the old GUI opens up just like before, and it looks and acts just the same as Kontakt 6 or 5:
So you want an applause for this? More like an "Oh, OK. So that's it?"
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How do we edit tags? Is there a way to edit tags for non-player libraries?
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To be fair they only said the browser would be HiDPI, but I share your frustration. If they're honest they'll admit this is not deserving of a major version number update. This is Kontakt 6.8. I should really deduct a minor version point for removing the Quick-Load shortcut: Kontakt 6.6
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@Kaiwan_NI Allow me to present a non-official, fan made header design just to help you finish your half baked 'Kontakt 7'. I am UI UX designer, and I have designed this rough sketch in 10 minutes.
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All the previous version of Kontakt installed in your computer remain untouched so you can still open your older projects without recall issues.
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MacOS 10.15 is required for Komplete 14. You can see the detailed system requirements on this page ⤵️
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Thanks. Yeah I sent off a support ticket, and was told that Kontakt 7 and Ozone 10 will both require MacOS Catalina at the minimum.
Cheers!
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At 1st I thought some of the critical comments here were a bit exaggerated as I mostly use a 27" display but then I tried it on my 13" laptop and altho the font is now sharp and better overall it's still small, especially in the prefs where the size is quite ridiculous. At least having 2 font sizes to choose from as smartphones have would be nice.
About it being half-baked - this is how NI has been doing things for quite a while... small steps. Just like VST3, 1st only some NI plugs, then a few others, eventually all from NI, then later all from 3rd parties. 🤷♂️
Press the i (Info?) button, then tags and you can edit them... Only works for custom presets, as ussual.
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So you want an applause for this? More like an "Oh, OK. So that's it?"
Hard to believe that many would think differently to yourself, and OK it's long overdue and none of us know just how much work had to be done to get thus far, but the constant failure to meet anything like what many would consider reasonable expectations is probably doing no-one any good
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Scaling the interface is not as easy as just designing a bigger interface, because the instruments will not scale. They're built on old technology, using grids, or specific resolutions, to a maximum of I think 1100px wide.
As NI have said, small changes, and there are two libraries using a new GFX engine within Kontakt - you will see more of these that will likely scale, but K1-6 is based on non-vector assets - really not easy to scale without looking terrible.
I think the Browser is a good start - it isn't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction for what is essentially the worlds most popular sampler. You cannot, and NI wouldn't cut off millions of users, and almost every library they've ever shipped 1st or 3rd party to create a new sampler interface that isn't compatible. Technical debt is a thing, and while I get frustrated with things like KK/Maschine not handling 3rd party VST3 (yet), NI has gotten much better at communicating of late, so perhaps we could cut them some slack, instead of the constant negativity?
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