Maschine plus upgrades (ableton push 3 released)

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  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru

    From JesterMgee quote: for many reasons, ipads will not be the centrepoint for a solution outside dreams.

    I strongly disagree. I believe it is almost inevitable. It is the smartest strategy to maintain vibrant development of symbiotic desktop <=> highly-portable music creation/performance rigs.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,208 Expert

    Fair enough.

  • Flexi
    Flexi Member Posts: 422 Guru
    edited June 2023

    No, you just need a good file explorer, iPads have had a bunch of updates for files, it is a while since i set mine up on to be honest, I rarely connect it to the computer to share files, but yes with the right explorer it is just plug in and push files across.

    I do get what you are saying, you only want built in software, but files.app is more of a concept than a complete finished explorer, they add files features at the API level all the time and they don't expose them for general use (Probably a good thing for most users) for example the explorer I use is designed specifically for audio use, it has extras for viewing audio and so on, much like I would have on my Windows or Mac boxes.

    By the way, I am not advocating for Maschine on iOS, yes it would be nice, I'm just pointing out they aren't what some are claiming here, built in obsolescence etc.

  • myalteredsoul
    myalteredsoul Member Posts: 263 Pro
    edited June 2023

    The tablet I have is an Asus ZFlo with a 12700h, nvidia 3050, 1tb WD sn570 nvme, and 32gb of Ram. All in, it was $1400. If I was to rely on a tablet connected to gear in a live scenario, this would be what I use.

  • nanotable
    nanotable Member Posts: 104 Advisor

    The fact that iOS isn’t trying to replicate the desktop metaphor from the 80ies is a good thing, actually. Insisting that it’s the only valid approach to file management is kind of silly, tbh. Nobody should care about arcane things like file systems, we should care about content. Case in point: just look at what NI is trying to do with KK, it’s the same concept. Now, Apple (and NI, for that matter) hasn’t solved the problem completely yet, imho. But it’s getting there, and I hope they stay strong and don’t listen too much to dudes who think Norton Commander represents the End of History™ 😛

    From an user perspective, an iPad paired with a hardware controller could be almost ideal very soon, I think. Blazingly fast, efficient, lightweight, a great (touch)screen and increasingly stable, OS and API-wise. It’s not quite there yet, but I think Logic for iPad will be a shot in the arm for the whole ecosystem.

    A big missing piece of the puzzle are sustainable business models for developers on that platform, whether it’s just smaller companies focusing on a few AUv3 plugins or bigger players like NI or Ableton. The Digital Markets Act and 3rd party App Stores are going to play a role as well. I expect a lot of experiments in the next few years. A lot of them are probably going to fail, but eventually something workable for all actors will emerge, I’m sure.

    That being said, I bought a Push 3 controller a week ago and I’m loving it. It’s connected to an M1 MacBook Pro and Live Suite 11, and all in all it’s the best production environment — or advanced sketch pad, rather — I’ve ever owned. It’s not even close (looking at you, Maschine Mikro 3, collecting dust for a while now). Sure, I have to switch to the computer to finish a track, but I’m perfectly fine with that. However, it’s not really portable, and I can see myself going for a controller companion for my iPad Pro in a few years — if something nice makes it to the market. I’m pretty confident it will, and I hope NI will be part of that conversation.

  • olafmol
    olafmol Member Posts: 227 Pro

    Can we please stop this? Tnx

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru

    Yep, it’s inevitable. ;)

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru

    Title of this thread is Machine plus upgrades. So discussion of the development path of Machine environment is on point.

    In my opinion, trajectory of historic Machine environment development has caused harm to the overall development of all NI products. Desktop products have been compromised by this old strategy.

    The old approach is what needs to stop.

  • nanotable
    nanotable Member Posts: 104 Advisor
    edited June 2023

    True, I try not to engage in these discussions, I managed to stay silent for 14 pages, but they got me in the end. Dammit!

    The thing is, there are so many interesting aspects to this, I tried to touch on a few of them, and I’m really curious how all of this plays out. But what tends to get discussed are the most boring things à la Mac vs. PC or I can’t live without unhindered file system access to my precious kernel drivers. Zzzzz.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    My bet is NI will come soon with new HW and SW. And we will see, if it brings new concepts, or if it is just an evolutional step....

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,024 Expert

    … at least we know the logo will be new!

  • Flexi
    Flexi Member Posts: 422 Guru
  • DoverBeach
    DoverBeach Member Posts: 48 Helper
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