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I made an account just to add this: Please, please, PLEASE set aside time to add Global BPM Automation and the ability to assign Time Signatures to either a pattern or a scene. As it is currently, I can basically only write songs in one timing and one rhythmic division unless I want to go through the work of counting things out and making uneven patterns & clips. I transcribed the sheet music to a Black Metal track called "Sculptor of Flesh" by 1349, and it requires BPM shifts for a few parts...if I ever wanted to perform this cover live with the aid of my Maschine+, I would need to bring a laptop or other sort of master clock along to perform one incredibly basic function that, in my opinion, my groovebox should already be able to do. I personally think that this feature is so absolutely fundamental, that it's a massive oversight not to have had it included when Maschine V.1 launched. The only reason journalists and youtubers HAVEN'T complained about this yet is because almost none of them create music outside of Hip Hop, EDM, or EBM. And trust me, I love industrial music in 4/4 like you wouldn't believe, but I want to be able to do more. If this feature is not included in an update this year, I'm going to start a youtube channel where I do some long-form analysis and criticism of this company (and others') products until an army of like-minded consumers demand better. I paid $1500 to ditch the computer, but I still need the computer to change global BPM & provide additional rhythmic elements in different time signatures. This is not a good feeling.
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I might be wrong but, in theory, the restrictions inherent in Maschines pattern format may mean that this is highly unlikely unless the clips format could be adopted to allow it, though I doubt it.
It has been a source of frustration for many and has been high on the requested list, but I've yet to see any indication of it being likely to be addressed or announced if it is technically a possibility.
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Well, ******. Imagine hiring a drummer to play in your prog rock, metal, or jazz band, and they tell you "I can't do accelerandos, decelerandos, double time, half time, any tempo changes whatsoever...oh, and if we start a song in one timing, it can't change because I get confused. My brain just doesn't work right, but if you add maybe a SECOND drummer who can keep track of all that stuff..." You'd be pissed. This is how I'm feeling about Maschine. Also, what kind of absolute fool of a developer would completely miss this feature at the beginning of the whole development process? It was marketed as a hybrid solution from the outset, so you can't tell me "well they meant it to be a plugin in your DAW". From my perspective, this should have been one of the most fundamental features to implement. This is something that should have been included in Maschine V.1. It's honestly rather ridiculous that my "drummer" can't do its job correctly because NI wants to spend their budget on "Lifestyle" ads. They could be selling more units to a wider variety of musicians, but as it stands it's basically only a good piece of kit for a small fraction of the music that can be made with synthesizers.
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I wasn't doing music when Maschine was introduced but I get the impression that it was produced to be a quick and simple way to produce stuff. I believe this was mainly possible by reducing complexity.
As you indicate, maybe the thinking was that because it's also a vst, then it could be used in a DAW that could then work in that desired fashion.
Maschine does look like it can do a lot more than it actually can and Maschine + is even more restricted.
It is also quick and elegant in some ways and ridiculously badly conceived and clunky in others.
It's no consolation but this has been brought up and requested repeatedly so I can't think they are unaware of it.
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Workaround:
As you noticed, you can of course create patterns of uneven lengths and it is a joy to use for polyrhythmic shifting of patterns as well as just parts with off meters in general.
Apart from just performing accelerandos and ritardandos by hand (because you mentioned performing. That implies that you would be willing to create parts of the music on the fly, for example gradating tempo changes): is there currently no dawless way to make M+ listen to BPM info, either via MIDI or Ableton Link?
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Whatever happened to the NI ONE project? Thought it was going to be a mega upgrade of maschine with parts of traktor and other NI vsts added? Really wish we got that song mode 5 years ago!
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Never heard of that. What is the NI ONE project?
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I believe it is a project to unify the different NI teams to work more closely together
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I have a question for @Nico_NI or @Matt_NI or whoever might be able to reply to details on the Autosampler: while this is of course cool for Maschine as such, it occurred to me that it might also be a feasible tool to prepare multisampled format for Kontakt, i.e. build a collection of aptly named files you could drag and drop into Kontakt. Is that feasible or is the batch of files that get created during autosampling not convenient for Kontakt in any way?
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Thank you. I am particularly happy about the saving options coming.
What is the current status of turning it into a full fledged DAW as spoke about in the old NI forum?
Will we ever get explode pitches of a track in piano roll to their own tracks? Many DAWs or other sequencers 😏have this ability in different names.
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I'm a vocalist & knob twiddler, primarily. I don't finger drum unless it's triggering one-shots here & there, and the dynamic time shifts I'm talking about wouldn't be executed the way the are in EDM or Hip Hop (as like a breakdown, transition, or outro from one track to another.), they would be unique sections/moments within a track..like temporarily speeding up your playing to make a crescendo type moment and then snap back to the original tempo...That would be a pain in the ass to do myself while I'm trying to sing/scream/twist knobs/put on a show and interact with the audience. If I only made Techno and wasn't as "performance art" oriented, I could deal with having to use the 5D encoder thingamajig to work with transitions, but I do a bit more than "loop based" stuff and I like being able to step away from the instrument to jump in the crowd and stuff.
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Would creating what you need in a DAW and then exporting them as WAV files that then could be used as whatever length samples trigged by the pads in Maschine /+ be a possible workaround?
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I think @Cretin Dilettante found himself in a very unique niche where performance clashes with finely preset configuration (I have to say that I am a bit envious that you have a crowd to jump into, though. Good times!).
Basically, we would either need a modulatable master track (because you could save the different BPMs in Lock States, e.g.) or you need to come up with a MIDI solution that takes over the role of host BPM on Maschine+ (and that is just guessing, I don't actually know if M+ allows this)
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@Murat Kayi wrote:
... we would either need a modulatable master track ...
THIS!
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I’m not 100% positive on this, but I think that bpm is one of the things that Lockstates does NOT save, unfortunately
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