NKS Development Discussion

Vagus · March 2023

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/57106#Comment_57106

The short answer is no - it's proved a lot of work, with issues on saving presets. Halion can sometimes drop assigned automations. If we look at how I do it, it'll explain why it's too big a task, and I'm leaving it to the masters like @JesterMgee .

I'll save out the preset, and any corresponding information, like descriptions.

I'll then process the bank changes.

I'll then create the previews.

Once that's done, I'll search through each tag and assign (using previews to manually assign if tags don't match).

It's a long process, but if you can imagine the automation dropping out, and then having to redo it - but also not knowing when it's dropped out - it makes a job of around half a day weeks, potentially, and at preent, I've got far too much on with work before I'm out of the country for work from the end of next week.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

JesterMgee · March 2023

I’ve managed to get it done but as @Vagus has mentioned, it was a major pain because of how terrible Halion is, basically every preset had to be saved then have automation enabled again for every preset. I figured a method to do it but took weeks to accomplish.

Home Studio · March 2023

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/57172#Comment_57172

Same for me Polymax or Opal or Waterfall stay on the "Default" preset. last Komplete kontrol (VST3) and well UADx is only VST3

Kymeia · March 2023

Is this also on Windows?

Also it sounds like the NKS patch is loading the mappings still - is that right - but just the presets don’t change for you when you change NKS presets? They do on my system but sometimes what works on Mac doesn’t work on Windows. If you could try saving a few yourself using my template and post them here I can check if that is the case

Kymeia · March 2023

For the patches I saved to NKS I had to change the default company name because UAD stupidly put part of that name in brackets 'Universal Audio (UADx)' which Komplete Kontrol hates (non text characters tend to make it hard to align images and database elements with the presets) so I shortened it to 'Universal Audio' but just as a test I have saved a few for Polymax without changing the company name to see if that is the source of the problem (It shouldn't be as they all work fine for me but it's always a good idea to try everything)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymwlvsqvd2fg1wy/Polymax%20NKS%20test.zip?dl=0

Diam · March 2023

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/57205#Comment_57205

Not at all. I appreciate the difficulty in approaching a plugin like Halion especially. Thanks for taking the time.

Home Studio · March 2023

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/57242#Comment_57242

yes I've saved some presets for the UADx Instruments (all, but not with your template) and also do the same change for company with just "Universal Audio" and my preset work fine but yours don't, even if they show in komplete kontrol with the one that I've made)

Kymeia · March 2023

Ok sounds like this is definitely a cross platform issue then sorry - I could see if applying my template to your presets solves this though if you want to share them

Kymeia · March 2023

Anyway here is UADx Brigade Chorus now - possibly these will also only work on Mac - trying to work out if there is a cross platform compatibility issue:

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/delay-modulation/brigade-chorus.html

Very nice chorus this, not feeling the Dimension one though, too subtle for me and limited options

https://www.dropbox.com/s/11dp4vs36gpln18/UAD%20Brigade%20Chorus.zip?dl=0

Kymeia · March 2023

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/57246#Comment_57246

On further investigation it does look like this is a bug on Windows with cross platform compatibility. Another user sent me some NKS presets made on Windows but on my Mac all apart from one loaded the wrong presets (not quite the same as your issue but in the same ball park). I then resaved them all with the correct preset and sent those back to the user but none of them loaded correctly again apart from the one that I hadn't changed because it was the only one that did match up. So maybe something to raise with UAD?

Kymeia · March 2023

Here is the UAD Waterfall Rotary Speaker as NKS - this is rather wonderful - best Leslie cabinet emulation I have come across - the NKS may not work properly on Windows though at the moment

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/delay-modulation/waterfall-rotary-speaker.html

https://www.dropbox.com/s/06zdsoknqasrvhc/UAD%20Waterfall%20Rotary%20Speaker%20VST3%20NKS.zip?dl=0

Kymeia · March 2023

I also made a NKS conversion for Liquidsonics/Reverb Foundry Tai Chi Lite (although I have the full version for use in KK the Lite is perfect) - all presets saved 50% Wet

https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/tai-chi/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ttie9fkchq8z3d0/Tai%20Chi%20Lite%20VST3%20NKS.zip?dl=0

Kymeia · March 2023

And fixed the NKS for the VST3 version of Surreal Machines Dub Machines bundle based on new VST3 templates and updated tagging:

https://www.surrealmachines.com/product/dub-machines-vstau/

You only need these if you already have Dub Machines installed, which officially supports NKS so you will already have the database/images files, but need to use the VST3 as the factory NKS presets were made for VST2 and the plugins don't yet support migration. You can simply overwrite the existing NKS presets so they appear in Factory or keep them in User - if you do overwrite Factory then keep a backup as they will get overwritten by any updates. These are only for the VST3 and will not be compatible with the VST2.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9un34jft6d818u8/Dub%20Machines%20VST3%20NKS%20fix.zip?dl=0