NKS Development Discussion
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You can send me a patch if you want. I can test on win 10. I have KK, maschine, and Halion 7.
Only took me a week to get my H7 license issue fixed... Steinberg...
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Here's a NKS template for another cool granular effect - Sugarbytes Graindad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1svts3zk3xkh3do/SugarBytes%20Graindad%20VST3%20template.zip?dl=0
Just the template and database files - not had time to save presets (there are quite a few) but tbh control is more important with this plugin for sample and audio mangling
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I really want to make one for Crusher X but it's hard to know where to start - the interface is so complex
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Hello everyone, my first attempt to create an user NKS library for a VST Instrument.
UAD Minimoog (with preview files) : https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhc5jbdcs85ej6o/UAD%20Minimoog%20NKS.zip?dl=0
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That's awesome - pity I don't have it myself but thanks for the hard work
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I tried to make preview files for a FX: Valhalla Delay - unfortunately the previews don't work with FX. Is it a normal behavior or am I doing something wrong.
I thought I would be helpful to have a preview of a delay effect instead of loading a preset, testing it and then doing it over and over again until I find something that suits my need.
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I figure as most effect plugins don't actually play sound in and of themselves, this would not really work and therefore has not been implemented. I imagine to do this they would probably need to use some sort of convolution technology/methodology or a different type of file compression to make effect presets readable in KK.
To my knowledge it is not something that has ever been explored, but maybe it would be a rather cool and sought after feature if they figured out a way to do it.
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FX are not creating sounds. They only modulate/tweak whatever sound you use them for. Thus they can not have previews, it is absolutely impossible.
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For @Diam and @Sunborn for clarification.
FX previews are coded out of Komplete Kontrol / Mashcine. It's a design choice rather than an impossibility.
As I say to my developers, it's just code (they regret ever saying this to me). It would not be difficult to allow previews to be played as a preview, because they're based on the preset, a state the plugin / host is in at the time saved.
You can export a preview using your DAW, and KK/Maschine could play that preview, which would be INCREIDBLY useful for blind/sight challenged users. It's a choice not to do this.
That said, I don't think NI are horrible for not doing this. I see the challenge, but that challenge is for the plugin / instrument developers, not NI.
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While this you said is very true, by "impossible" i meant something else.
The previews has to be based on a sound. But as i wrote the FX are not sound generators. Now, if we assume that we all use the same delay effect, it will sound different on a hi-hat, different on an arp lead and different to a pad or a voice sample, though its principles will be the same of course.
If you make the preview of a preset, based on a sound of your own, it will be meaningless to me, unless if i have the exact same sound. Of course, still you can get an idea about what this preset does, but... isn't this the reason for the tags? Even the preset name (or category) in most cases, are indicative / illustrative of what this preset does. Thus, in most cases at least, the previews for a FX preset are pointless and just a waste of space. I think, NI and other developers have exactly that in mind.
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The thing is in Komplete Kontrol fx only work with an instrument in the first slot so the previews will be assumed to be for the instrument not the effect
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I think I am happy to stick with tags and favourites with the FX for now anyhow. A bit of mystery never hurt anybody.
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I get your point and to be honest at a first glance only previews for a delay plugin make sense to me.
I would just make a plucked hit as a preview to hear how it behaves with different delay presets.
I mean the presets names can be very descriptive and indicative but can everyone exactly imagine how it will sound for real? I can't. It's not a big deal anyway that it won't work with Komplete Kontrol. The software is great anyway.
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Here's a template for Noise Engineering Cursus Vereor:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2st6ihfcpyivq69/Cursus%20Vereor%20VST3%20NKS%20template.zip?dl=0
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I've now combined all the Noise Engineering synths and fx I have into a bundle - this contains the Freequel bundle and 3 paid for synths, all 1:1 ports of hardware modular modules - these are just templates for control and NKS integration - I did not convert presets to NKS as there are thousands - if anyone can do that using scripting or something to make it easier feel free - that would be awesome - but I am, as always, primarily interested in hands-on control and making my own patches so am less bothered with presets
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