When will Native Access have full Apple Silicon support? (Installer still req. Rosetta)

thejestre
thejestre Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
edited March 18 in Native Access

Hi, title says it all, when will there be full support for Apple Silicon?

I tried installing Native Access today and received this:

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  • victorp.sg
    victorp.sg Member Posts: 212 Pro

    Native Access app and NTKDaemon are already Apple Silicon native; it's only the NI Installer app for installing Native Access and NTKDaemon that requires Rosetta 2.

  • thejestre
    thejestre Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216557#Comment_216557

    Hi, yes that is correct. I'm asking when there will be full support for Apple Silicon.

    If the installer requires Rosetta, then there isn't full support for Apple Silicon.

    I saw a post about a year ago saying they were working to update the installers, I thought this was part of that and want to know when it is expected to be completed.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Administrator, Customer Care Posts: 14,804 admin

    IIRC Rosetta is needed to activate discontinued products, allowing customers to have their older products on their newer systems. This means Rosetta is only needed for the activation part so it has zero impact on performance. @Mert_NI Can you confirm?

  • thejestre
    thejestre Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216765#Comment_216765

    Hi, thank you for your reply.

    I get this message when installing the NI Access tool, even before I can select any instruments to install. I can't even open NI Access without installing Rosetta, I can post the other message it shows after I answer "Not Now" to the above message. It is something along the lines that NI Access requires Rosetta to install and can't continue without it.

    I don't want to and am not trying to install any legacy instruments that would require Rosetta. It seems I can't even install the Apple Silicon NI instruments without installing Rosetta, which is a bit of a paradox.

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  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Administrator, Customer Care Posts: 14,804 admin

    @thejestre Unfortunately it's not a choice we can make per user. You simply need to install Rosetta, as explained in this article from Apple: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102527

  • thejestre
    thejestre Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216790#Comment_216790

    Hi,

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "it's not a choice we can make per user."

    I'm not asking for a work-around or how to install Rosetta/NI Access, I'm asking when NI will have full Apple Silicon support (excluding legacy instruments).

  • Mert_NI
    Mert_NI Customer Care Posts: 925 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216765#Comment_216765

    Exactly @Jeremy_NI ☺️

  • Mert_NI
    Mert_NI Customer Care Posts: 925 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216796#Comment_216796

    Hello thejestre, most of the newest products should be compatible at the moment with the newest operating systems at the moment. Here is the website that you can check the Compatibility Chart for Native Instruments Products, in case you may need to check it:

    https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014900358-Compatibility-of-Native-Instruments-Products-on-macOS

    I hope this helps☺️

  • keithos27
    keithos27 Member Posts: 2 Member

    Any update on when Native Access will NOT require Rosetta?

  • thejestre
    thejestre Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216889#Comment_216889

    Hi Mert_NI,

    Thank you for your answer. The answer is to a different question though. I think the title of my post was not very clear.

    My question is: "When will installing and using Native Access not require Rosetta?" like keithos27 is echoing above.

    I have seen the instruments being upgraded, and want to know when I can install and run NI instruments/effects/etc without needing Rosetta. Currently, it is not possible for me on a new computer to use any NI instruments without installing Rosetta, since NI Access' installer requires this.

    Do you have any timeline on when this will be addressed?

    Thank you.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,839 mod
    edited March 19
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216888#Comment_216888

    I'm a bit confused by this. If all Rosetta is enabling to happen is the install of NTK-Daemon, but NTK-Daemon and Native Access are themselves both Silicon Native, then how is that also facilitating the installation of legacy (non native) products? If anything it would demonstrate (logically) that Rosetta is not needed for the installation of non legacy apps (just for their running). However I remember Hayo saying something about some installers needing Rosetta to function (presumably the legacy ones) and that would make much more sense, which implies that the requirement to install Rosetta doesn't need to be tied to the install of NTK-Daemon but could instead be made an option just for people who want to install legacy products. Which is what is being asked for.

  • Mert_NI
    Mert_NI Customer Care Posts: 925 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216942#Comment_216942

    Hello thejestre, sorry for the misunderstanding.

    Even though this subject is on talks, I think the real answer here is that the latest/updated installers may not need Rosetta, but NA still needs to have Rosetta to be able to run older installers, which may never be updated to not need Rosetta. So, saying something sure about it would not be possible at the moment, but it will be good to know that there is a possibility that it may never be updated to not need Rosetta in the long term at the moment.

    I hope this helps☺️

  • expora
    expora Member Posts: 8 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/217125#Comment_217125

    Maybe NA should install Rosetta when needed, some users might never need to run old installers.

  • qobold
    qobold Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    hi, this conversation seems like pulling teeth… :D so rosetta is needed for installation… got that. let's say i don't want rosetta after installation, and i have only NON-legacy software installed by native access. but i still want to update the ones i have… (as expors put it shortly)

    question: will native access(already installed) remain fully functional for my use cases (updates are possible etc.) after uninstalling rosetta? i think this would be very nice and basic (if not yet implemented as such)…. or at least: if NA is not programmed in ****** ways or with spaghetti code… this should be easy to solve. could you clarify around this fog? thank you:)

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