NAMM 2025: Introducing the NKS Hardware Partner Program
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Not all. I’m an Akai user. I’m not happy.
Btw: I still have my Maschine MK1. I always kept it and it’s in plain sight in my studio because it was, imo, one of those things that marked a “moment in time”. One of those things that in future should be in a museum.
Does someone want to buy it? 😔
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"Opening up what we do to others" referring to our partner manufacturers. Their users are our users too. We have the same users. And it makes sense that we'd make our products work better together for these same people!
I completely agree the M+ update is taking too long. I'm hopeful that more news will be forthcoming on that topic soon, when @Chris_NI is able to come online and share it.
I also recognize fully why not everyone is excited about this announcement. Obviously the sequencing is a bit odd. But we'll continue to plow forward catching up on all these things that matter. If nothing else, there's a more recent track record of giving long overdue attention to previously aging products, whether bigger (Maschine 3) or smaller (Battery 4 update).
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I agree with you, 100%.
There are a number of products went too long without receiving necessary attention.
Since joining, I am proud of what the team and I have been able to do, rotating through these products to ensure they're each given some of that overdue attention. We've been able to get Kontrol S MK3 furthered, Maschine 3 back up and running (with more to come), critical Battery 4 bugs addressed, and some lingering performance issues with Kontakt 7 fixed even after the launch of Kontakt 8. We'll continue to do this. It may not always be enough, or as timely, as we'd all like, but it's happening. We're building things :-)
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I don't see things merely from a business perspective - apologies if it came off like that. At the end of the day, people want to make music, or at the very least enjoy the process of making it (I'll admit, I start more music than I finish). And a lot of people continue to find enjoyment in our products when creating their art. That's a combination of new and existing customers. Depending on the release, the ratio can swing wildly from one to the other. All users matter.
The comment about predecessors was not intended as a slight on any one person - but rather a recognition that for some years a number of products were not updated frequently or extensively enough - something that a group of us have worked tirelessly now to address, with a bunch of updates.
We can't change the past, but we are building a future.
To your question about Maschine +. Yes there will be an update fixing things including external audio interfaces, and yes that will work with Maschine + and Maschine 2, so no, you won't have to upgrade to Maschine 3 unless you want to. You will also have the option to upgrade to Maschine 3, but won't be forced to. You tagged the right guy to go deeper on the subject though, so I'll leave it at that and stay in my lane 😉
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Yes please. Imagine a world in which companies come together to do just that…
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Thank you for these clarifications.
Regarding 1. Not sure I have yet registered my Korg, Keystage, does that make me eligible ? Regarding 2. yes I was relating to the MPC integration.
Now I understand better the way you've done this. It explains why Akai improved its sampler/keygroups engine in V3 to be more on par with what Kontakt does and hence allow some NI content to be adapted to the MPC. That's makes total sense, because we don't necessarily need full port of Kontakt into the MPC when it already have a multi-sample engine in there.
Now regarding MIDI 2.0, I understand NKS goes well beyond than auto-mapping, it also includes the browsing & UI integration, which obviously cannot be done through the MIDI protocol. So does make sense to open NKS with partnerships so this becomes a sort of standard, while still keeping MIDI 2.0 in mind. I'd really like to see more MIDI 2.0 support in NI plugins and not only NI ones actually.
At the end, this announcement is about opening the distribution channel of NI software/content products further. More choice on more platforms can only be good for the users and for NI.
I still have my M+ which I use along with the MPC and a Roland Verselab MV1 which I love using too, so I hope we will see NI continue its efforts on the hardware space, even if I realize it's much more costly and risky for NI or any company. But I guess if the software/content strategy pays off, NI will be able to afford this risk 😉
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Kudos to anyone who's made it this far - to recap;
We're opening NKS to 3rd party hardware manufacturers, so that more people can benefit from the seamless integration we previously held as proprietary. There will be a lot more to say about this over the coming months, but it will come first to Komplete Kontrol, and next to Kontakt, and be supported by most major controllers from most major manufacturers (some of whom are already announced).
We've also teamed up with Akai to make some of our more popular sounds and instruments available on the MPC platform as well Maschine. This isn't Kontakt running on MPC, but the instruments rebuilt in the MPC ecosystem.
And - where there is some frustration, I'd like to acknowledge that it's thoroughly valid. There are users patiently waiting for some Maschine+ updates that are coming soon.
I think that sums it up thus far.
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Thank you for the answer (finally).
BTW: I REALLY want to update to Maschine 3. And I will. Once I will see a reason for. And NI behaving towards its users and therefore deserving more of my money.
At the moment, I will probably use my Force and MPC Live 2 more, since Akai seems more healthy than NI.
And while doing it, I will cry thinking I would like to use my Maschine more, if only NI…
Since you are willing to give more answers: is NI working on what people is really complaining here? Aka are you working to give YOUR users what you are giving to Akai (more products for Maschine+)?Or is it materially not possible because M+ can’t handle it?
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I think it was lost in the shuffle, because we've definitely mentioned that a few times. Things also can and do get lost in the forums. And maybe some got lost with me moving over to Kontakt too - apologies if so.
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I certainly wouldn't mind an internal SSD or M.2 storage option, and the onboard warping and pitch correction of my MPC and/or Push. Push has got ADAT too.
The M.2 in my Push got swapped out for a larger one not long after I bought it.
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I edited my previous post with a new question, which I think is really important for this thread (about M+ obtaining something or not).
I would also dare to say that it would have been the way to do it: announce NI products working on a MPC WHILE saying what will happen to M+ on that regard, being it a yes or no (I understand that it being a no would cause a lot more complaints…but that is called honesty…one of the remarks smudging NI’s name)
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I'd really like to see more MIDI 2.0 support in NI plugins and not only NI ones actually.
I expect that the future will bring more MPE and since MPE as far as I know require Midi 2.0 then it is highly likely that the future could bring more 'Midi 2.0' . I personally would not be surprised at all if we at some point in the future are going to see use of MPE in more N.I. devices , could even be some sort of 'innovative' MPE use (?)
Also Quote Matthew_NI , March 2024 : Expanding the MIDI 2 implementation on Kontrol S MK3. Yes, this is limited until DAWs and content manufacturers implement MIDI 2 more widely and robustly. But I expect this to expand greatly, since MIDI 2 has some compelling capabilities.
Also quote Matthew_NI , May 2024 : As @Kymeia says - NKS and MIDI 2 can be complementary to one another.
NKS1 and NKS2 can provide a highly customized experience, with artwork (including in future, dynamically changing artwork for greater usability), parameter groups for ease of navigation, audio pre-hear, and so on.
MIDI 2 offers some similar benefits in that it allows products to communicate and easily map to one another. For non NKS products in particular (such as external hardware, and yes software too) this will be a big usability upgrade.
P.S. : Ref. : Are Kontrol S-Series keyboards compatible with MPE?
MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression) is an industry-wide extension to the MIDI protocol that allows additional signals to be sent on individual keys. Some plugins can receive multiple different MPE messages. Because Kontrol keyboards feature polyphonic aftertouch, they are compatible with MPE plugins that are able to receive polyphonic aftertouch signals.0 -
Nothing dropped for Maschine or the Kontrol MK3 today.
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I read to much my head hurts.. NI must have something up there sleeve.. the NKS partnership will bring more revenue.. until then all we keep hearing is coming soon..
If the product is taking to long to deliver to thousands of paying customers then changes need to be made again at NI.. I will say it again if you cant beat them join them..
Akai is listening to most of what we are asking for.. and what wasn't delivered they are transparent and working on it and it does take years to come out.. that sounded angry but it wasn't just tired of coming soon 😆
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Don’t forget that Akai, NI, and Avid (specifically mentioned as a partner in NI’s release) are all owned by private equity firms. None of these companies are being run consistent with the ideals of the musicians that founded them. Those folks have long since left the building and often were treated poorly om the way out. The exciting stuff today is DIY outside these corporate ecosystems.
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