The classic problems: browser flickering

von Bordwehr

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/106493#Comment_106493

Such as? I've looked for alternatives but haven't found any. Rekordbox's file path length limitation makes it unusable. Serato is focused on something other than what I need, and I don't like the interface. I want an application that's good at handling metadata + a large archive of music.

lord-carlos

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/106502#Comment_106502

Have you tried Algoriddim Djay or Virtual DJ?

von Bordwehr

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/106504#Comment_106504

Yes, but it's a while ago. Perhaps I should give them a try again.

ingrid2

I have a brand new Macbook, 16gb memory, 1tb storage and I get a flickering banner (menu bar) only in forum discussions!??

Kubrak

@von Bordwehr

It's not on controller displays, it's the browser in the software.

Here's a video from a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWjGBJxWpH0

I haven´t seen anything like it on three computers of mine and on computers of few my friends.... And I have rather weak computer.... On any version of Traktor in past six years...

red_nick

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/125823#Comment_125823

@ingrid2 That's when the browser width is a certain amount, causing it to switch back and forth between the desktop and mobile versions of the menu bar.

DrBaarish

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/105165#Comment_105165

Dude, you are a bit of a ****** about it... Do you think every person who has that Problem installed Traktor on an Abacus just because your Computer/Notebook doesn't produce that Bug? I have the same Problem on an AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 8 Core Processor, with 64GB DDR5 Ram, only SSD Harddrives...2 of them on PCI-E x16 M2 Slots and an Nvidia RTX 3080 Graphics card...so it's pretty save to say that it has nothing to do with the quality or power of the hardware. It seems more likely that Traktor has some sort of conflict with specific Hardware and/or its Drivers...

Milos

Ahh, ****, here we go again...

Another pandemonium.

Kubrak

@DrBaarish

The fact that you have strong computer does not necesarily mean it does not have certain HW or SW problems.

Traktor runs just fine (no flickers) on ordinary i5 (4C/8T) at 2.5 GHz. Passively cooled. Friends run it on wide range Macs and no problem. I did run Traktor even on i7 (2C/4T). No flickering.

If Traktor has conflict with certain SW/HW, the problem is more probably in that SW/HW than in Traktor....

von Bordwehr

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/126933#Comment_126933

I've had this issue on every computer I've had since at least 2010. Other users have complained about it too for at least as long. And the issue has been recognized as such by NI. If you and your friends don't experience it, it could be due to the way you use Traktor or to the size of your collections. That you don't see it does not mean it's not an issue with Traktor.

wayfinder

it doesn't really matter, but i would sure like to see a video of @Kubrak using traktor without the flicker (sort browser by release date, then edit some metadata), just to know it's possible

lord-carlos

Traktor runs just fine (no flickers) on ordinary i5 (4C/8T) at 2.5 GHz. Passively cooled. Friends run it on wide range Macs and no problem. I did run Traktor even on i7 (2C/4T). No flickering.

Sounds like the flickering is not hardware speed related then :)

the problem is more probably in that SW/HW than in Traktor....

What HW or non traktor software issue would make traktor re-calculate the the playlist order?

Kubrak

Recalculate slowly... Antivirus? Exhaustively used RAM? Too big collection? Programs massively accessing disc. USB traffic. In case of certain controllers also GPU....

As I said many times, the "flickering" would be less visible, if NI does not erase the screen and show the text about sorting.

@wayfinder

I have tried. When sorting playlist of 3500 tracks, no flickering. Well, if one concentrates, he will see that something is written on the screen. It is there for few miliseconds. On playlist of few hundred tracks, absolutely nothing recognizable.

When editting metadata (when tracks sorted by, say, BMP) no flickering at all....

I may record it, if you tell me how to capture screen to video.

Tested on passively cooled i5 (4C/8T), 16 GB RAM, (probably NVMe) SSD.

von Bordwehr

In my experience, nothing outside of Traktor affects the flickering issue in any substantial way.

To get the most severe result, I'd expand the browser tree, do a search for a common word, sort the browser by something other than #, and then load a number of tracks.

This is what it looks like here: screen recording.

If you're on a Mac you can easily make a screen recording with QuickTime (Menu: File > New Screen Recording).

lord-carlos

Recalculate slowly... A

Ah, so you can actually get the issue on your end!

" would be less visible, if NI does not erase the screen and show the text about sorting.

Sadly that is not enough, because sometimes it blocks for input. Or delays the input. You want to scroll 3 down and preview a track but thanks to the flickering it might happen that it only scrolls down 2 and no preview. It's just overall annoying and makes Traktor feel unreliable.