NKS Development Discussion

Yes they are - on the whole, since there are still a lot of plugins that don't have NKS there is no need to replicate existing work, and it certainly shouldn't devalue that work. However perhaps there is scope for a different approach sometimes that creates choices without undermining another's work?

I think we went a bit "off topic" here and i suggest to keep this thread "clean", completely practical and informational instead of yet another post for debates.

So, i will repeat here, as a general answer to all, something that i wrote on another post, sometime ago:

"Freelancesoundlab presets definitely worth their money (same as anyone else who spend time and energy on something and want to get back something for his work). We (the few of us who create NKS presets for free) try, as much as possible, to not interfere with Jesper's work. If he already did something we don't do it (or, we are not sharing it publicly), with few random exceptions."

Let's keep this as a general rule, an ethical but not mandatory rule. All happy, all good.

As Kymeia wrote, there are hundreds of VSTs out there, without NKS presets, or even official support. Lot of work, for a lot of time, for everyone! :-)

I think the main point is those of us who have been making NKS a long time know how laborious (and often tedious) it is and therefore respect and value each others work. I have had a few times myself where I have worked hard for several days to create a NKS bank only to find someone else has posted their own version of the same thing. It's frustrating but there's nothing you can do when that happens and there's certainly no point in complaining about it - after all that other person has also put in that work in good faith, and they are also only trying to be helpful - so we just accept that's the way it is and say thanks and move onto something else.

So over time we have evolved this 'unspoken agreement' if we can even call it that, to as much as is humanly possible not to replicate each other's work whether it is semi commercialised or not. Simply on practical grounds it makes sense as there are always new plugins to convert and it means any work done is not time wasted, but I think this is also the civil thing to do. These are not 'rules', this is all voluntary, we can't tell people what to do or not to do (except never post commercial banks that undermine copyright because that would be wrong, and also break forum rules) but I think it is perfectly reasonable to let new people know this so they don't unintentionally waste their own time and use their developing skills productively. I don't think anyone was saying don't do anything, in fact help and support was offered.

Again no one is saying 'don't mess with the paid version' - that's a straw man. The whole point of this thread from the start was to primarily to empower users to do it for themselves because NI certainly were not doing that and we had to find out how to do this ourselves the hard way. We were able to show users that it is possible for anyone to create NKS patches of their own, for free, and likewise people are free to share them too and we are grateful for everything people create whether for free or for a small payment (within what is legal and acceptable on this forum of course). However I think Freelance Soundlabs are just as much part of this community as the people who do this for free, I don't want to foster an 'us and them' mentality here, I think it is ultimately counterproductive and that is to the detriment of the community we have built up together.