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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,799 mod
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    I think it should be MST_artwork.png and slightly smaller (134x66) - that's what I have anyway (obviously in a folder named after the library)

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,799 mod
    edited June 2023
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    Not for Kontakt libraries - it's a bit different as KK see's them all as libraries not separate plugins

  • TallerThanPenguins
    TallerThanPenguins Member Posts: 25 Member
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    I've created a ton of image and db files for my various non-player Kontakt libraries but cannot seem to get a few things to work right:

    1. Image when ANY non-player Kontakt library is loaded does not show the MST images and logo in KK or on the hardware. Used to use the default Kontakt 7 image as you say above @Kymeia, now it consistently shows a random library plugin image (MST_plugin) and logo (MST_logo) I created - cannot figure out how I managed that but it seems stuck now to always show the same library instead of default Kontakt - even though the images/kontakt folder has the original art (and displays correctly if using factory selection instruments).
    2. I consistently set the vendor in the .meta and .json files but some libraries still show under Native Instruments in the KK browser. Cannot seem to identify why this happens - I worked through the libraries in vendor order and was copy/pasting the new files and saw different results for the same vendor.
    3. Have not shared what I've done as I have not found/set up a scalable way to create previews (Mac/Apple silicon) so it's just useful so far for images/logos and I don't know the root cause of 1 & 2 so don't want to create problems for others.


  • Vagus
    Vagus Member Posts: 416 Guru
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    On point two, I use DB Browser to search the DB and make changes for things that won't move, despite .meta and .json files.

  • Vagus
    Vagus Member Posts: 416 Guru
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    @Juho Tuomainen I've now completed the Beatskillz plugins, which you can find on the User Library Dropbox, by clicking this link:

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/77xozc5vbzb3svf/AAA3BbR9EbN7WFcZa6_SOyq2a?dl=0

    Papyrus Keys was more difficult, as this had to be tagged by ear, but I hope this helps.

    Any feedback or changes, let me know and I'll amend. As for Zodiac, I believe @Christos Adamos Is working on this one.

  • Vagus
    Vagus Member Posts: 416 Guru
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    Let us know when Freestyle gets a VST3 - honestly, given the developers history, it would be worth NI buying it, and hiring him full-time to bring Maschine/KK into the 2020s.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,307 Expert
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    I never heard these plugins and seem interesting.

    So you think they are good additions to NI for KK. Do you suggest them?

    Being you considerable quite an expert of plug-ins to use with NI I would take your suggestion. And also considering you are already thinking to β€œport” them for NKS User Library πŸ‘πŸΌ

    I have some money to spend in a couple of plugins and this round I’d rather look outside of NI circle.

    Any suggestion would be welcome and thank you for making me discover them

  • Vagus
    Vagus Member Posts: 416 Guru
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    I think @Kymeia might own more than me....

    I'd go for Generate, Novum, Phase Plant, Plasmonic, Equator2 and Surge XT - best around, and all for different things, IMO.

  • Rikk Show
    Rikk Show Member Posts: 100 Helper
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    So, to repeat so I am 100% sure I understand. The custom MST_plugin image can show for UVI, Reason, etc libraries, but NOT for 3rd party Kontakt libraries? Ie, the circled image below will not be possible for Kontakt, correct?


  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,307 Expert
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    I was talking more specifically about the 3 in the NewSonicArts bundle, but thank you anyway for more suggestions πŸ˜‰

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,799 mod
    edited June 2023
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    It can do if it has its own product name - that's how NI get things like the Play series to show up under their own logo and not the Kontakt one - otherwise KK just uses the generic Kontakt thumbnail for Kontakt instruments. However to give it a product name appears to be something that requires the NKS developer tools, although it is possible some of the independently developed tools like that GULP thing might be able to do it but I don't know how to use that.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,799 mod
    edited June 2023
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    Obviously the developer intends people to use them as plugins/apps in their own right but I do find for me they complement KK well and overcome shortcomings like not being able to create multis and complex chains, and the 3 samplers are relatively simple and fast to use while offering different toolsets - Nuance for example also has drum pads and can quickly create kits that I guess (although have not tried that aspect as I'm not much of a drums user) could be used in Maschine. It can also sample plugins. I'm dying for Freestyle to come out as VST3 though.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,376 mod
    edited June 2023
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    Gulp is an extremely useful tool, but it can not change vendor name for Kontakt 3rd party banks. Actually, as long as those 3rd party libraries are on a Kontakt User folder and not on a Factory folder, they can be edited directly on Maschine/Komplete Kontrol

    But this tool can!

    It is a GUI interface for Windows, for those who do not know how to use scripts. It can do a lot of nice things and tagging Kontakt banks is one of those.

    To use it, you need to install Python and NimBank-v4.2.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,799 mod
    edited June 2023
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    Added template and example patches for Nuance 2 now to NewSonicArts folder

    Note on the template mapping - I have mapped all the 'hardwired' params the plugin includes by default but this is based on a basic default sampler setup (using the examples it comes with). If you are creating kits or more complex multi layered instruments you will obviously need different envelopes, XYs, fx etc per cell/sample. Nuance 2 has the ability to create custom automation setups by adding additional automation Ids (using right click on the param to be mapped) and once added in the plugin these will then show up as mappable params in Komplete Kontrol or Maschine but these need to be done on an instrument by instrument basis.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,376 mod
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    Speaking of Kontakt 3rd party Libraries, here are the custom resources that i made for my few (just 11) Libraries. They are quiet rare libraries but i hope that it might be useful for some of you. :-)

    Resources are for the libraries below:

    Ancient Greek Strings

    Ancient World - Instruments of Antiquity

    Egyptian Ney

    Ethnic Flute Phrases

    Ethnic Vocal Phrases

    Kick and Bass Machine

    Mongolian Voices Ancient Phrases

    Orient Express

    Shevannai - Voices Of The Elves

    Suspended Cymbals

    Voices Of Ancient India



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