Maschine plus upgrades (ableton push 3 released)
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Sounds like KORG Volca series and the part there the sun don't shine.
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Actually that was a big fail. And all those devices cannot be used anymore because they are not compatible with today’s Apple products.
Stupid!!!
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2024 is not 2011
USB-C and Smart Connector is not 30-pin lightning
iPadOS <=> macOS integration is key to lessor distinct development costs
Apple Silicon is 13 years more advanced in abilities
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The same was for mixpults and so on..... Unless iPad has the same OS as Mac, it is total nonsence.
It would be sound only if there is standard (size, display minimal requirements, connection, ....) for plugin devices. One could interchangeably plug in Apple thing, Win thing, Android thing .....
And the standard should hold for decades.... So that one might plug new thing into old gear....
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2037 is not 2024
2050 is not 2037
continue as long as you wish (or as long as large corporations want to increase profits)
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OS on iPad is not problem????? And why do people pray to have something that runs on MacOS to run also on iPadOS?
SW runs on Win x86 tablets just fine. And SW runs, unlike from iPad that waits, waits and waits if something is ported...
iPad is not standard and except for USB-c connector and WiFi/BT it hardly follows any HW industry standards....
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whoever flagged this is a big baby haha. Ipad is not a good solution for anything. You cannot repair or service it yourself. You cannot even remove or replace the battery. Support solutions which give you ownership of your own stuff and enable you to repair or otherwise service it by yourself. At least just get a thinkpad and ableton. If soldering scares you that's fine. All you will generally have to do with a thinkpad is unscrew the panels for the RAM and HDD/SSD. It's like legos. it will be okay. taking responsibility for your things and putting time into configuring/personalizing your things is good for building character. don't be afraid to grow. :P
Also, on another note. My solution to music tech companies being poo-poo at their own jobs has just been to move ITB & stop buying gear/software entirely. Repairing & replacing computer parts is easier and still more accessible than fixing a Push or a Maschine and there's no point in throwing cash at these companies in hopes that they will finally give us the thing we need or fix their platforms so that they don't impede our workflow.
Seriously though, as boring a solution as it is, just go in the box.
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You must have such a beutiful and big character. You must have a blast time in the box. Wow. Going to change my ways. You showed me the light. Thank you!
Have you heard about Linux? Peeps say it is free and you can spend even more time tinkering, not making music!
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All it takes to use a computer is literacy in your first language and basic organizational, pattern recognition, and logic skills. You don't even have to do any math to understand how a computer works well enough to maintain it yourself.
I'm not running linux. Still on Windows 10, although I am strongly considering moving to and learning to use linux for audio.
But also, I would like to pose a question: why the heck are you involved in electronic music, if you hate learning to use technology? The computer has been the most efficient and effective means of recording and performing music for at least two decades by now. I'm disabled and simply refuse to carry more than 20lbs worth of gear to a show, and I find the attitudes of able-bodied folk toward computers to be enraging. You have to take time to learn any given piece of music gear you buy, whether it's Maschine or an Elektron Box, so why not just consolidate everything to a narrow range of interfaces and software paradigms by using a laptop? If consumers weren't ignorant and were willing to take personal responsibility for themselves and their incapacity to use computers, the Framework Laptop wouldn't be considered an innovation. All computers would naturally be modular, and the end user would be allowed to dig into their OS and configure it to their liking. But guess what? People are stupid and content to remain ignorant, so we get all of these half-realized, locked down walled gardens that expire less than a year or two after purchase. /end rant
On one hand, I think it's a fantastic idea for tech companies to produce computers or computer-like devices where the OS and hardware are configured for specific purposes. However, nobody's really done it correctly. Roland refuse to release a proper MV with Mouse, keyboard, and monitor support because of the DAWless crowd; I don't know if Yamaha even care about synths anymore. Suggesting that one capitulate to apple and just get an ipad, or that music tech companies should focus more on the ipad as a platform is not going to make things easier for anybody but those already invested in that ecosystem. We either need a proper standalone music-making computer, or a regular, general-purpose computer that we can configure and maintain ourselves. The ipad is an incredibly niche solution, in spite of its form factor and touch screen, because of the price and because it is not "repair friendly". If I were a gigging musician, I'd rather have a device running my show that was easily opened up and repaired. I'd want to be able to spend some time on the bus, bar, or green room tinkering and troubleshooting than sending someone to get me a new ipad, spending all day activating the ipad, reinstalling all my other stuff, etc.
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From the Cretin Dilettante quote: I'd want to be able to spend some time on the bus, bar, or green room tinkering and troubleshooting than sending someone to get me a new ipad, spending all day activating the ipad, reinstalling all my other stuff, etc.
Have you tried to set up a new iPad recently? It is incredibly fast and easy to clone/recreate a "replacement" iPad. For a working musician, this actually can offer more confidence in having a quick fix vs all the variables that might happen with other gear.
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13 years advanced.... Experts say 85% of all facts are made up on the spot when people don't bother to cite their claims.
Can you stick to the discussion? OS on iPad is not the problem for using it with old devices as you pointed.
Uuuuh, the discussion was originally about Push 3 and Maschine but as is usually the case, Apple fruitcakes derail the whole thing, tracks werte ripped up 50 pages ago.
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24-11=13
That is a fact
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Yep, 85% of facts are just made up ******, point taken!
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I will repeat it once more and last time. ;-)
Any non standard plug-in THING that is to be plugged to HW that should work for decades is crime. Be it green, red or blue. iPad, Surface, android thing, Linux thing, whatever...
Only industry standard thing with industry standard interface with industry standard physical parameters should be used.....
IPad is not industry standad, Surface is not industry standard and so on. Till now there is not any industry standard plug-in tablet like device....
Only mad developer would use nonstandard device plugged into their precious HW. I do not speak about something floating on loose cables... Than yes, one may connect (not plug-in) many things... But it is not plug-in device....
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It is possible to design a device to mate with an iPad in a manner that yields a unified structure without an insertion.
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