The MASCHINE+ Feedback Thread

It's a standalone device from a sound design company that won't let you sound design on it. It's so ridiculous. Instead it's a glorified preset player. You have two giant screens. DO SOMETHING WITH THEM!

Such a waste in so many areas.

I often wonder why some of the comments are so angry and insulting. We all are here because we believe in this product and own other products that NI makes. Insulting the dev team will not get our feature requests integrated or completed any faster, probably the opposite. Can we try to be respectful and keep our expectations realistic? I honestly feel like I purchased what was advertised, yes there could be improvements but the Maschine+ is extremely capable as is. Just my two cents.

cheers!

I didn't read any insult here, but angry comments for sure !

I've create in many forum from many countries treads where I ask the question if the Maschine+ is finished or not and if yes, should NI communicate more and in details about the firmware 1.4 ?

The number of answers since now are not exhaustive imo considering the number of M+ that was sold, but it show clearly that people who think Maschine+ is finished or not is dependent to the way they use it.

People who think it is finished (on their first answer) use mainly Maschine+ alone, without HW gears or just for jamming (so that mean without recording automation), or use only installed presets. Some use the sampler functionalities.

So they admit they didn't need to :

• tag their presets
• create macros
• and constraint them itself with the audio limitation (VST)

But some of them (quite few) admit afterward (when I explain my point of view) that Maschine+ is not finished. One, a french guy, say that after renaming samples he chop on Maschine+ they are not recognized when he open his project on Maschine Software, and so, he wait a real improvement about it.

People who think it is not finished (on their first reply) use mainly Maschine+, like me, as a center piece of a computerless setup. They admit that it is possible to produce music with it, but they have to use other gears (one use a daw on computer) or some do some "hack" things to work well with it.

For them, the missing features or features to improve are :

• better automation and automation edition (also related to macro creation)
• better Program change management

The "advertisment" say (in marketing language) that you can use Maschine+ as :

• jamming device
• production device (also with HW gear)
• Djing instrument

And at the top of all : "standalone".

For jamming : no doubt, nothing to say.

For production : definitively not convenient with HW since you need a computer to create macros, and automation is like on the 90's, but compare to some gears of this era and ours, on Maschine+ it is worse.

For Djing : no doubt.

For each of those situations you need at least a computer for tagging your presets or your samples. So it didn't sound totaly "standalone" for me.

I didn't speak a lot about audio, because imo it is not needed to speak about the VST implemented to objectively show the problem about Maschine+.

Top request from me would be an easy way to record lock state changes. Why can’t this be done by simply enabling automation recording? I feel like adding this would solve a lot of issues (ability to record mutes, less need for automation editing, easier way to incorporate advanced automation). Also it would enhance standalone aspect by reducing the need to edit automation on the computer

@TheLoudest

Just 2 things :

• That Program Change didn't jump between 2 values when set on a step on a pattern as modulation
• the possibility to tag presets (indeed without using a computer)

@TheLoudest

About PC/MSB/LSB, I think it is the more logical place for it ! At the "sound" level.

Since modulations can be set on step basis, so the process is :

• create with Maschine Software a sound with 3 macros : Program Change/MSB/LSB and save/tag it
• load this "sound" on Maschine+ (you notice the combursomness...)
• then record a Program Change on the first step of a pattern, and then record the wanted Program Change on the second step... (You have to look at your gear and try may times because you have no feedback on Maschine+ to be sure the right value are set...)

If you just record a modulation on 1 step, nothing happen because Maschine+ send modulation only when a modulation change happen from a the fist value that is recorded. So if you have midi notes on first step, only the third or the fourth will be heard when you play the pattern the first time.

• So the better usage of this "hack" is to create a "void" pattern with only PC/MSB/LSB at the beginning of your song, so you will be sure that the second pattern will play with the preset of your gear you want.

People who find this process just reproduce the way they do on Maschine software, that work great. But they notice that the modulation on Maschine+ didn't act as in Maschine Software. So they have to create extra patterns just for Program Change... That is a shame imo.