The future of Maschine

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  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 7

    Ah and just another think (says Columbo), why can't I change routing via a user template without erasing the existing sound? Needs to be a +Sounds button next to the +Routing +Patterns buttons.

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 7
    mono.png

    ———-→

    Argh only stereo outputs not mono I just discovered (again), guess that's another enhancement request :( Guess there are workarounds…

    Sorry this is rapidly turning into my own personal b*tching thread!

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,813 mod
    edited July 7

    @CakeAlexS said:

    Another thing, user templates and routing, often some settings are not saved. Surely it can't be that hard to fix?

    Can't say I have ever experienced this, I have projects nearly 10 years old that still load fine with all routings in place. I also havent seen anyone report this, maybe you've stumbled upon a bug?

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233415#Comment_233415

    Indeed. I suggested this before, I dont think it will ever happen tho; people have such a hard time understanding routing that there's no backup from other users to specific practical suggestions like this one… People can just say "we want better integration".

    A workaround is to

    1. Save the Sound/Group (With whatever sounds or patterns you want to keep)
    2. Load a preset with +Routing, (loads the routings and resets the sound)
    3. Load the Sound/Group from step #1 with +Routings disabled.

    Result: You changed the sound and kept the Routings. It works, but it's for sure convoluted.

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233431#Comment_233431

    It's fine… TBH I was surprised you seemed so happy about the state of things a few days ago and said to myself: "wait until he rediscovers all the issues" ahahaha

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 7

    Yeah it's all went Pete Tong once I started sync'ing and routing with DAWs! I no doubt raised these issues years ago but I've forgotten.

    Having said that I finally manageable workflow now with Studio One although stuff stated here on this thread is still a PITA and slows it all down.

    Pretty much all of it is basic stuff that should have been sorted by now. Oh well!

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,813 mod
    edited July 7
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233270#Comment_233270

    I dont see why not, at least for the current gen controllers MK3 and M+, MIDI 2.0 is just software, not hardware, imagine having to buy a new computer to use MIDI 2.0…

    Maschine uses proprietary communication that is translated to MIDI by it's drivers and background services anyway (a combination of OSC and some other stuff I think)… This is why MAS controllers are not MIDI class-compliant, which in this case can actually be an advantage.

    Now the DIN Ports might be trickier and require firmware updates (?), assuming theres enought storage there for however big MIDI 2.0 ends up being, it should also be doable unless NI decides to use this as an excuse/advantage to sell new models.

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 8
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233441#Comment_233441

    "Can't say I have ever experienced this, I have projects nearly 10 years old that still load fine with all routings in place. I also havent seen anyone report this, maybe you've stumbled upon a bug?"

    From 13:40. He's loaded up a template with routing, the only thing he should be changing is the MIDI channel but as you can see he's changing a lot more.

    https://youtu.be/JXyPxR_11OE?si=cRr1cA4APzdZKSvz

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,813 mod
    edited July 8
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233448#Comment_233448

    Oh… My bad. I'm able to reproduce.

    Loading a Group doesn't recall the Group's Channel or Start Note for some reason, everything else seems to work. I'll report this

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 8

    Argh need a stop button with Standalone app.

    tantrum-cry.gif

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/13344/back-to-start-move-playhead
  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 8
    itsadrag.png

    See image above, top is standalone, bottom is plugin.

    So with the plugin I can drag and drop MIDI/audio files into my DAW, but I guess I can't do that with standalone right? (I can certainly drag and drop stuff from my Studio One to Maschine 3.2 standalone app).

  • AdelV
    AdelV Member Posts: 484 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233500#Comment_233500

    Your standalone is in Song mode and the plugin is in Ideas mode. Switch the standalone to Ideas mode too, and you’ll be able to drag and drop both MIDI and audio to other apps or the desktop.

    Shortcuts:

    Song Mode =cmd/ctrl + 2

    Ideas Mode = cmd/ctrl +1

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    edited July 8

    I thought I checked out this scenario, clearly I didn't - doh! You're absolutely right of course (it works).

    I guess as an enhancement request I would like to do this in song mode too (via standalone and plugin).

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,813 mod
    edited July 8

    That would export the whole song, at that point you might aswell use the export menu rather than stay holding the mouse drag-and-drop for 40 seconds (or however it might take), at least for audio.

    For MIDI it would be nice to export a full arrangement too, one of those cool things we might never get.

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233519#Comment_233519

    Surely in song mode I could select single/multiple clips and patterns (or the whole lot) and just drag 'em into the DAW? Audio and well as MIDI.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,813 mod
    edited July 9
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/233533#Comment_233533

    Not even the DAW's I use do that for MIDI… Maybe S1 does, idk.

    Your problem here is Clips, In your shoes, I would seriously re-consider if you really need the little advantages that Clips offer, which is…………. The ability to span across Sections + to be layered on top of Sections and… nothing else (?).

    If it were just Section/Scene you could drag-and-drop from Song Mode; keep in mind Clips is one of those features that got released and people had a million suggestions for improvements that were ignored due to time constraints… and like most times, NI rushed it out and never revisisted it, it's not as well though out and polished as Sections/Scenes and Patterns are.

    Anyway, if there's actually a Scene/Section/Pattern underneath your Clip than you use Audio drag-and-drop on it, it does export the Audio including the Clip (within the boundaries of the Section), but to see the drag-and-drop button you have to get out of Clips Mode. Confusing? Yes. Looks like so:

    Screenshot 2025-07-09 at 11.57.50.png Screenshot 2025-07-09 at 11.57.35.png

    The export via Drag-AndDrop has the Scene/Section and the Clip's Audio:

    Screenshot 2025-07-09 at 11.57.55.png

    But then to make things inconsistent, MIDI drag-and-drop exports only the Pattern… why you may ask? Because Maschine.

    PS - I must say I am having fun answering actual functionality questions for a change, keep going! The forum been boring lately with only tech support related questions.

  • CakeAlexS
    CakeAlexS Member Posts: 108 Member

    Thanks D1 I'll get my head around it over the weekend!

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