Back to start / Move Playhead

O'Neal

I hate that I even have to ask this...

How do I simply rewind on the Maschine+? I just bought this thing and I feel like some things shouldnt have to be figured out. I have used all the encoders yet I have a pattern stuck halfway in a measure. I've watched the tutorials and read the manual. And whyyyyy is there not a "back to start" button on this Maschine.

D-One

Shift+Main 4D Knob moves the playhead. (I am assuming that's what you mean by "rewind")

It does so by the current Grid Value you have selected, you can change it with Shift+Follow/Grid.

No one knows why there is no "back to start", or why we can't just press stop 2 times to achieve such behavior like in most DAW's, this as been asked for many many times over the years and discussed a lot in the older forum.

Especially when it's something so easy to implement that even I was able to do it myself, discussed here, and later added to NIPatcher. Unfortunately, there's no known way to modify the M+ script files.

D-One

Shift+Main 4D Knob moves the playhead. (I am assuming that's what you mean by "rewind")

It does so by the current Grid Value you have selected, you can change it with Shift+Follow/Grid.

No one knows why there is no "back to start", or why we can't just press stop 2 times to achieve such behavior like in most DAW's, this as been asked for many many times over the years and discussed a lot in the older forum.

Especially when it's something so easy to implement that even I was able to do it myself, discussed here, and later added to NIPatcher. Unfortunately, there's no known way to modify the M+ script files.

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/71907#Comment_71907

Sometimes why NI don’t implement such trivial things is quite obscure. Specially cause they never make statements about why they don’t. They just don’t answer customers…is kind of a company policy.

In their defense, I could say that press stop 2 times and then having to press play when we will need to play again from start is one more press than pressing stop and using RESTART to play from start. It’s just a matter to get used to use RESTART button. But having playhead at start can be useful if you want to move it from there (for any reason it could be useful to someone)

D-One

@LostInFoundation said:

In their defense, I could say that press stop 2 times and then having to press play when we will need to play again from start is one more press than pressing stop and using RESTART to play from start. It’s just a matter to get used to use RESTART button.

Lol... in that case why would the user even use Stop 2x to begin with? No one ever asked to remove the Restart button...

If an NI rep or dev told me that I'd probably reply that they need to find another job as I expect them to know enough about music to understand that a user might want to return to start to you know... Paste something at the start, copy (since copy takes playhead location into account), insert a Clip, or any number of other things, especially with big patterns/scenes.

All DAWs I've tried have this function for a reason.

TheLoudest

it's not even a question of pressing STOP twice or doing shift+stop etc.etc.

actually the problem is that there is NO REAL stop button on this device...

It is actually a "PAUSE" button.

And this is a real problem when you want to work in sync with other MIDI devices.

(at least if you intend to use M+ as master... OK. Silly me..)

When you press STOP, the other devices receive a midi 'PAUSE' message.

so when you restart, the devices are desynchronized.

This is the ABC of MIDI

and yet it is still missing in Maschine+ in 2023

it's completely crazy.

(ditto for aftertouch that NI developers seem to ignore while synths are released today with the MPE standard...)