Maschine 3.0 General Discussion
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The software (Maschine 2) I purchased along with my Maschine MK3 should be supported for at least as long as the hardware is supported. At the very least, compatibility updates should be released, if required. There's nothing in Maschine 3.0 that makes me want to purchase it and many reasons why I wouldn't, at least as it stands now.
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The DAW only shares certain information with us. It allows us to control and adjust even less information than that. You're asking for a MIDI controller to set the scale in a DAW. This is something we, as a MIDI controller, typically do not have access to.
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Hi! i am not sure, i also just took the info out of the compatibility page, ni is providing. it would be very odd, if midi mode (shift+channel) would not work on the latest macOS. there are no driver for MK3 on macOS to begin with. And for mobile devices, the thing is, they have iOS or ipadOS installed, this is not the same as macOS, and unfortunately, not compatible. try to use an external power supply and connect the MK3 via din would be my approach. i do not use my ipad as a musicbox, other than ableton note.. or will i.. haha, can't promise😅
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@Matthew_NI said "we, as a MIDI controller, typically have access to"
Shouldn't that say "typically do not have access to"?
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Fixed. Thanks @PK The DJ
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Hi Mark, i find it difficult to expect companies to deliver services, if there is no clause about support duration in the contract. just from the standpoint of sanity, it would kill me to have expectations and high hopes for something others are doing. the moment i pay for my product for a one time fee. the deal is closed. thanks to the internet, it is possible to patch everything during years, that gives a distorted perception on the product itself. before you had to deliver at launch, if it failed, that was it. Today everything is on it's own strange timeline, assume it is is just common practice, as for costumer care and self preservation, more than a legal obligation. i find it very annoying to be on an alert for new stuff all the time, i give me one month a year(surprise, surprise, cyber weeks), to check out gear, than i close the lit from the constant noise from the net for the rest of the year, silence is one the most precious resources in our world, especially for people that work in very loud environments. of course i will never miss a launch of my favorite apps that i love to pay full prize every time, even if they do not deliver the most, i am willing to invest in them (not ni for me btw). it's my opinion and way to handle things, happy if you disagree. just what will i do when ni goes out of business tomorrow? i am responsible for my system, from the get go. i have to make an informed decision, every step of the way. from hardware to software,from compatibility to maintaining , it's up to me to make it work. when the day comes to stay in a system that works for now, or to upgrade to something that could break my production, and i choose to upgrade, i have to fix it, except i can hire a engineer. being in charge of technical stuff takes a lot air from being creative and productive. i feel your pain man. but PCs are general purpose devices, not specialized audio production tools. every thing can break at any time, it is not the most stable environment. so if you can dedicate one pc solely to making music/ audio production with apps installed on the main drive. make regularly images (.iso) from it and you should be future prove, and even if a controller break, check out your local instrument dealers, they mostly know somebody that fixes gear. and with llms, who know, in some years we are able to write custom driver as non engineers. somebody already startet one.
All the best to you,
cheers,
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I love online version of manual but looks like not fully updated, photos are old and search is not finding nothing about stems.
Hope it will be fixed in future. Thanks.
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I just checked - stem separation is definitely mentioned and pictured. It's in the PDF version too.
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Definitely it is.
Price is desent and I think everyone can afford it. I am more interested in Hardware Machine MK3 and Plus Stand-alone, I am hooked up to Standalone and I already see myself going to rehab In the end if everything become subscription but till then I will try 👋🤓
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The issue with attempting to flog Maschine software as a standalone programme is that I can't think of a single thing it does better than any other DAW except for its ability to work effectively with the Maschine hardware.
As a standalone programme, Maschine is years behind the functionality of free DAWs like GarageBand. I cannot imagine why anyone would adopt Maschine as a standalone software product over, say, Ableton Lite, let alone the paid version of Ableton.5 -
@Mark Oxley Apologies for sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong. Just do your thing!
@ Everyone; Sorry for oversharing, I've had way too much coffee and only 1 hour of sleep yesterday. Went a bit zombie mode off-topic🧟🐒😆
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"I cannot imagine why anyone would adopt Maschine…"
Maybe because that's all they need. Maybe because it's designed specifically for the hardware device they bought. Akai's MPC software is similar. People use it, despite numerous DAWs being on the market.
This type of software doesn't need to do anything "better than a DAW". It's not competing with DAWs.
Serato Studio sells for roughly the same price as Ableton Live, yet it's far simpler - and people use it (presumably because they want something simpler).
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Yes, Maschine Software helped me going back to producing music few years ago, thanks to its simplicity. I’ve moved on, since then, but it was great to have something simple and approachable back then. Also, Maschine software is rhythm/beat oriented, unlike GarageBand, which was great for EDM people, like me.
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@ozon (sorry editing the comment, does not allow taging members apparently) i tried to connect the mk3 to the ipad. the issue (one of many ?) is maybe that the mk3 can not be started in MIDI-Mode, or at least i was not able to do so. I used a powersupply to power maschine and connected it via din to a midi interface that was connected to an ipad.
i am speculating, that the implementation of the midi protocol is wrapped in its own "utility" layer and as such not exposed directly to the ui and midi port. also when starting up mk3 in MIDI-Mode under windows, my custom templates are loaded automatically, what could indicate that the controller editor is a dependency, if the templates are not stored on the hw unit itself.
Maybe an implementation of a "MIDI-Mode template utility" directly to the maschine application , and than a port to other OS would be a solution? in case of mobile devices, i find it more intriguing to utilize the touch screen itself, and as such save other resources. Sure the play style has to adapt, i do not mind. question now that imaschine is history, is a maschine 3.+ port for iOS even a thing?
for me, really the maschine application is just a companion software to the controller, and as such not the focal point.
everything that can not be handled from the hardware unit itself is a "flaw" in it's design.
I personally do not mind, managing settings and naming pattern/scenes on the computer is ok. but other than that, the gui plays no role when i perform with the mk3, and all features that are not available via the controller dismissed.
So maschine 3.0 as a standalone app and the vst gui to me is irrelevant. without the controller or a daw and a price tag of 99$, who is is this for? i can't even map parameters to an external midi controller… or can i ?😅 and as a music production app, you can start with the same price tag on a beginner tier on any major daw plattform and upgrade in time and need.. hack get reaper license for 60 bucks and take all the free goodies from every developer you like. you have in minutes a great tool set for itb and computer based audio production in general, you can start out without to worry about licensing issues. and as soon you start to earn bit money, switch to a commercial license for 230$ (still a great price).
but getting back to the maschine 3.0 software itself, i think the "About your ideas for maschine 3" is a much more productive discussion. but i will not spam that discussion. in my opinion, it is up to native instruments to hire great minds to push this product and if you are interested to be a part of the development, join the beta program https://native-instruments.centercode.com/key/maschine-software-only
At this point, i do not find that native instruments has introduced something really interesting to be worth of discussing, just solid new features on a absolute fantastic instrument and fixing the gui would be much appreciated😊
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For myself I only will use maschine software as a sound module..
@D-One have you tried using the old template you created years ago in the 3.0 software? If so changing kits does the routing revert back and change the mappings? I dont have the latest maschine software but up until the last update change groups in cubase 13 were messed up..
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