Machine MK1 Controller working on M1 Apple Silicon Macbook Pro?

Christoph
Christoph Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
edited October 2024 in Maschine

Does anybody have a workaround to get the mk1 controller working on a new M1 macbook Pro? I checked the Intel based workaround but that doesnt work here.

Mac Osx Monterey 12.4

Macbook Pro 14" - Apple M1 Pro Chip

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  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,204 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yeah this is where Win and macOS differ greatly.

    Old and obsolete hardware such as the rather ancient (in tech terms) MK1 controller on Windows will probably be fine as drivers for these kinds of devices carry over fine. My old Evolution MK-461C I used on Windows 2000 still works today, tho it is class compliant.

    macOS on the other hand is not so forgiving and kind of demands you (and allows developers to do the same) to get with the times. "Got money for a shiny new M1... Then you must also be able to afford a new Maschine too."

    Drivers for the MK1 are here:

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/downloads/drivers-other-files/

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    Beyond macOS 10.11 you are kind of out of luck without some trickery which on an M1 system will probably not work.

    Time for a new controller.

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  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,576 mod

    No idea what is going on in Mac, but on Windows 10 is working perfectly.

    Maybe you didn't download its drivers and thus Mac can not recognize it?

    MASCHINE Controller Driver 2.8.0 - Mac OS X 10.9 - 10.11 is the latest available.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,204 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yeah this is where Win and macOS differ greatly.

    Old and obsolete hardware such as the rather ancient (in tech terms) MK1 controller on Windows will probably be fine as drivers for these kinds of devices carry over fine. My old Evolution MK-461C I used on Windows 2000 still works today, tho it is class compliant.

    macOS on the other hand is not so forgiving and kind of demands you (and allows developers to do the same) to get with the times. "Got money for a shiny new M1... Then you must also be able to afford a new Maschine too."

    Drivers for the MK1 are here:

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/downloads/drivers-other-files/

    image.png

    Beyond macOS 10.11 you are kind of out of luck without some trickery which on an M1 system will probably not work.

    Time for a new controller.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,204 Expert

    As I posted, there is a difference in how Windows and Mac are designed to support hardware and as I also linked to the same driver you posted it is clear the driver supports only macOS 10.09-10.11 which was halted in support in 2015. There has been a few ways to trick the installer on some later versions, but M1 is completely new processor architecture on a new OS release so a driver would need to be developed for it... which given the hardware's age will not happen.

    This is why if you choose to use macOS you will need to accept that at some stage, you will just have to update your setup to keep pace or choose to stay on older operating systems and hardware.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,576 mod

    "...This is why if you choose to use macOS you will need to accept that at some stage, you will just have to update your setup to keep pace or choose to stay on older operating systems and hardware....."

    OFF TOPIC: And this is exactly why i never trusted or used MAC, since 1998 (and never regret that decision)! Yes, they are stable etc. etc. they have some advantages, but i never liked their "millionaire style philosophy". For me they are very overestimated machines and, numerous times in the past my tweaked Windows beat down several similar Mac's. However, i agree that for the average user, who doesn't know (or want) to "dive" inside his tool and tune it to perfection, a Mac solution might sound more appealing ...if he afford their extremely expensive prices of course.... i rather prefer to make a 2 month trip to Thailand and eat prawns every day! 😊

  • tbgib
    tbgib Member Posts: 1 Member

    This is a ridiculous conversation. This should not be a blame the system problem. This is a blame NI problem.

    I've paid you guys tons of money for hardware - if you force me to buy new hardware, I will buy someone else's.

    Get off you butts and write drivers for the new OS and processor. Otherwise this is just a chance to lose customers.

  • tato
    tato Member Posts: 2 Member

    100% agree with tbgib.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,680 mod
    edited December 2022

    Then do it, get something else, vote with your wallet. Altho... I am not aware of any company out there that makes affordable HW (that needs drivers) and supports it for 13 years+ on MacOS.

    I've eliminated Steinberg, Rane, Waves, and Avid/Digidesign from my list of companies I buy HW/SW things from exactly for the same issue: not updating drivers or their software leaving me no choice but to buy new HW or a paid SW upgrade...

    The MK1 is from 2009, officially supporting it for a decade was already impressive compared to most companies out there.

  • mjyigit
    mjyigit Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    traktor s4 mk1 is not working with my new apple MacBook Pro m3pro This is so bad.. you must fix this problem! in other case me and my all dj friends and also in the internet portal we will not advice NI products... I hope you can fix this in 2024's first month !!

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,680 mod

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/440/s4-mk1-on-m1

    Zero chance, it's a 14-year-old controller discontinued in 2016, old HW and modern Mac's don't combine well, unfortunately.

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