My sustain pedal is not working for Kontakt

IAFJCMinistry
IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer
edited May 8 in Kontakt

I use Kontakt 7 as a plug-in for mainstage. when I load up a library, the piano is sustained the whole time. I tried to look for the problem but I couldn't seem to find the solution for it. My MIDI keyboard is an Arturia keylab essential and my sustain pedal is proline universal with a polarity switch.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,666 mod

    Hello,

    have you tried the midi message monitor, like this guy shows here:

    https://youtu.be/V50jBawMQbQ
  • IAFJCMinistry
    IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer

    @Uwe303 Yes, I have. My pedal works for my other plugins this is just the only one that doesn't

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,666 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/162713#Comment_162713

    Is it with all pianos in kontakt or a specific one. Have you tried to automate the sustain pedal and does it then behave differently or is it sustained all the time no matter if you press the pedal or not.

  • IAFJCMinistry
    IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer

    @Uwe303 It's with all pianos in kontakt an yes its still stays sustained no matter if I press it or not

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,666 mod

    Can you make a picture what the midi monitor shows if you press and depress the pedal?

  • IAFJCMinistry
    IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer
    Screenshot 2024-07-07 at 3.47.46 PM.png

    I am holding my pedal and mainstage is detecting it so as kontakt

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,666 mod

    If you move the pedal up and down, does the 5 pin plug sign, left from midi ch. blinks? it should with every incoming midi signal.

  • IAFJCMinistry
    IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer

    @Uwe303 Yes it does

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Administrator, Customer Care Posts: 14,574 admin

    How is the pedal behaving in Kontakt in standalone?

    I see this on your screenshot:

    Screenshot 2024-07-18 at 16.29.28.png

    Is there another assignment on CC64? CC64 is the MIDI CC for sustain, there shouldn't be a need for further assignment. Have you tried to delete this MIDI assignment?

  • IAFJCMinistry
    IAFJCMinistry Member Posts: 6 Newcomer
    edited May 7

    @Jeremy_NI

    Hello, I have opened a previous discussion about this issue a while ago and I just stop paying attention to it. However, I still didn't manage to find a solution to fix the sustain pedal for it to work on kontakt. Here is the run down: I use kontakt as a plug in for mainstage. So far, kontakt detects my MIDI controller and my sustain pedal. However, when I try to use the preset, the keys works fine. They respond with my MIDI controller but I can't use the sustain pedal and the sound stays sustained the whole time. I went on edit mode on the preset and when I press my sustain pedal, it does detect it. It blinks red when I press on my pedal next to the CC64. I have tried flipping the switch that is on my sustain pedal and still no luck. I have also tried troubleshooting my MIDI controller on kontakt and sustain to make sure everything works fine and nothing. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

    Screenshot 2025-05-07 at 1.09.43 AM.png
  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 7,055 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/225148#Comment_225148

    Please do not open duplicate discussions !

    Also please answer Jeremy_NI's questions that he asked above here.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,666 mod
    edited May 7

    And maybe you can open an automation lane and record some automation with cc64 while pressing the pedal up and down. Or you could also use a midi monitor in your DAW or as stand alone application, I know I already asked it but forgot to mention that it has to go from 0 to 127. Very strange that you say it works with other instruments but not with kontakt. And please try first with kontakt stand alone then the same piano within main stage. And what exact model do you own, the pro line pss 10 or 20, normally they both should work with your keyboard, it only supports on/off, so no expression pedal as far as I can see online. This shouldn't be a problem. Has this keyboard some kind of midi settings software, I guess it has, what have you set there for the pedal?

  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 456 Pro

    Not sure why this post has been closed when the problem hasn't been solved.

    kontakt detects my MIDI controller and my sustain pedal. However, when I try to use the preset, the keys works fine. They respond with my MIDI controller but I can't use the sustain pedal and the sound stays sustained the whole time.

    2 suggestions.

    1. Check cc#64 messages from your pedal are getting through to the instrument, using MIDI monitor script (Preset>Factory>Utilities>MIDI Monitor - verbose mode) cc64-1.jpg

    2. cc#64 is programmed via Instrument Options. Without Controller is probably best.

    cc64-2.jpg

    The last cc#64 message received needs to be value 0.

    If this is all in order, you probably need to reinstal Kontakt.

  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 456 Pro

    Let us know how you get on.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Administrator, Customer Care Posts: 14,574 admin

    @IAFJCMinistry Any update? Were you able to fix this or do you still need help?

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