Midi from an iPad to Maschine+ with only a usb cable (tested and working)

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,779 Expert
    edited December 2023

    @ozon Practically, is the Maschine+ that will appear on the iPad as a midi destination (or source).

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    On the M+ itself you just chose the USB Maschine+ port in the Midi IN tab in the sound you want to control (of course after having activated the USB port in the Settings under Midi)

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,627 mod
    edited December 2023

    Tons of people use iPads as MIDI controllers, or MIDI devices plugged into their own iPads.

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/112380#Comment_112380

    iPads (other tablets and phones too) are fancy like that, modern if you will... they can be both, a host or client, it wouldn't make sense for an iPad to be fixed being one of those 2 options.

    If you're looking for technical info I think it's called "USB OTG", good luck reading thru the mess that USB standard is and the fact that what is supposed to be a "standard" is very often not followed by manufacturers at all, remember the whole USB Audio M+ thread? They struggle hard to simple came up with descriptive names or follow a simple color scheme.

    I reckon that when using a USB-C to Type B the iPad defaults to being a client, or the app you use triggers it, not sure.

    This whole big mess is one of the reasons everything should be true USB-C in this era, with regulatory certification... but the Audio users and industry is very resistant to change.

  • Peter Harris
    Peter Harris Member Posts: 473 Pro

    I use mine with the iPad via a cheap wireless MIDI dongle that plugs into the M+ USB port and it works great.

    And I plug the 5-pin MIDI adapters that it comes with into my MK3 or S49 MK2 and all three works wirelessly. 🥳

    LEKATO Wireless MIDI Adapter, MIDI Bluetooth with USB MIDI Ultra Low Latency 5 PIN for Synthesizer EWI Keytar Digital Piano Keyboard to MIDI Devices, Mac OS/iOS, Win XP https://a.co/d/1RWmIsu

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,911 Expert
    edited December 2023

    @LostInFoundation @D-One thank very much for sharing detailed information.

    While I was semi aware of the fact that iDevices could switch roles depending on the connected adapter, I didn’t expect the M+ in standalone mode to act as Client and Host simultaneously. In fact I thought the B port to be deactivated in standalone mode.

    This is a huge discovery for me which opens a couple if very interesting possibilities in standalone operation.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,779 Expert
    edited December 2023
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/112645#Comment_112645

    If you are anything like me, it would be more than a couple 😉

    Just a suggestion as an example: the newly released BLEASS Arpeggiator. Finally an arpeggiator that isn’t only “Up, Down, Up and Down” but something really innovative.

    BTW: on intro price for only 9.99

    Anything to learn, NI?

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,911 Expert

    @LostInFoundation thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, BLEASS Arpeggiator doesn’t work with the M+ as it doesn’t allow to configure MIDI in/out. Which is quite annoying for a 15€ app.

    Kirnu Cream (5€) and Moog Animoog both can communicate with the M+. The setup on the M+ is a bit cumbersome, because it behaves totally weird when recording.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,779 Expert
    edited December 2023
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/115046#Comment_115046

    Bleass Arpeggiator is an Au. Open it in any host, tell the host where to send the midi (MASCHINE PLUS) and M+ on which port to receive the midi (USB MAS+).

    This is how I’m using it (in Loopy Pro, AUM or any other host).

    I suppose you should also be able to use M+ knobs (through the trick of creating macros on computer and transferring them to M+) to control Arpeggiator parameters. Haven’t tried it yet, but now that you made me think about it, it’s surely the next thing I will do ☺️

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,911 Expert

    @LostInFoundation BLEASS Arpeggiator is also a standalone application, but it offers no MIDI configuration for USB just allows to add Bluetooth devices. And there is zero documentation for the standalone app. Disappointing that I have to buy another app to use it.

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