Komplete Kontrol - Accessibility Improvements Wishlist (new)

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  • ScottChesworth
    ScottChesworth Member Posts: 1 Newcomer


    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/31645#Comment_31645

    I'd +1 both. Expected to find deeper NKS support across NI's offerings when I picked up KK13 Ultimate, but in general, it seems like the NKS protocol could use some love. More things need to be controllable, such as menu selections within GUIs, mappings, outputs, performance settings per instrument etc.

    As things stand, when I find an instrument with NKS support, there's still inevitably a journey of discovering what can and can't be done accessibly, and often times, the can't do list ends up being longer than the can do. Here, purchasing an instrument and finding out that I'm able to get anything close to full leverage over its capabilities has been the outlier. I'd like to see that UX become the norm.


    Thanks in advance for any movement you can get going!

  • Jim Homme
    Jim Homme Member Posts: 12 Member

    Hi,

    Answering for myself, Both. The GUI's are meant, as I understand it, to control the individual applications, while NKS is meant to control the sounds, once they are made. For me, the big three are accessible GUIs for Komplete Kontrol, Kontakt, and at least one synthesizer, such as Massive or FM8. I get the lack of accessibility put in front of me any time I read a manual and realize that I can't really get control over a lot of things. We have to take what's mapped to NKS at this point and make the best of it. And I don't mean for any of this to sound ungrateful for the accessibility we have. I'm still very much a beginner at grasping this stuff, but my day job is accessibility, so I tend to notice it without really trying.

  • Jim Homme
    Jim Homme Member Posts: 12 Member

    Hi,

    Total silence speaks lowdly. Any news?


    Thanks.


    Jim

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,272 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/47531#Comment_47531

    News?

    This is a wishlist thread. Like most wishes these are hopeful things with zero guarantee any suggestions will even be considered so not sure much news will flow back I wouldn't think, just the more people that chime in on the same suggestions may mean possibly something could be considered for the future.... at some stage.... maybe... If ur lucky.

  • Jim Homme
    Jim Homme Member Posts: 12 Member

    Hi,

    With the new Kontakt Factory Library 2 and Kontakt 7 full, are more NKS parameters mapped across the various instruments than with full Kontakt 6? An example of few parameters mapped would be the orchestral instruments, where there only a few NKS mapped pages. Thanks.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,272 Expert

    I don't believe anything further has changed in adding additional mapping.

    I have had this discussion with a lot of visually impaired users over the years (and some that just want deeper control) to look at adding better templates to Kontakt instruments but issue is Kontakt NKS files are not actually NKS format files, they are just the NKI files so all the tools and methods I have developed won't work with the format for 1, and second it's not all that simple since you have to enable host automation first so it's kind of too hard for me to add additional support.

    NKS was designed as a "performance controller" to offer just a few pages so has parameters designed to simply adjust the main timbre of each instrument. I am not even sure if accessibility was initially a thing but seems there was no real forward thinking to allow for this deeper control or we would have things (that have been requested over the years) like the ability to easily switch an instruments template between maybe factory/user so a user could create their own and have that applied whenever a NKS file was loaded and of course a quicker way to cycle through pages or just the SIMPLE ability to scroll backwards through the pages when you are at page 1...

    Problem is, Komplete Kontrol has remained largely unchanged in 7 years now and the consensus is with all this VST3 update business and Apple Silicon compatibility work to be done and the fact it appears there is just a single programmer in NI that does all the work and only works on Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons if it isn't raining in his enclosure, no new features will be considered this year.

    Suggest away but set the expectation bar to minimum, then kick it down the stairs and that is prob about how realistic one should be that a suggestion will be considered based on the current track record of zero community suggestions being implemented in that time... You kind of just give up hoping for anything more.

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