Maschine 2 and Maschine + Update Status
It has been over a week before the last thread was closed. Did the update not work out? vaporware?
I hope not, it seemed awesome!
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They said they ran into some additional bugs and they postponed the release until it all gets fixed. No eta but I'm confident they are going to release it. I doubt they would scrub it.
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the update is still coming, but I guess NI decided they don't want to give an ETA to the update anymore in case they hit another snag during development. The last minute bug they caught prvented the release at the last minute, and I reckon it was serious enough that now NI doesn't want to give any further ETA on when it drops. It will just come out when it's ready.
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“It will just come out when it’s ready”. Love that.
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It comes, when it comes. No need to know more.
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Be carefull, it's like Beetlejuice etc... if you say UPDATE three times, this thread will be closed ! 😁
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I believe the opposite. More transparency is needed. This is a rather expensive product that has serious stability issues for a lot of users.
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I believe the opposite. I believe we should leave them alone and and let them do their work. They’ve heard our complaints about stability. They’re aware that it’s a big issue and that NI has too much to lose if they don’t fix it.
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I have to say there is one thing M+ does better than all the competitors
When I sample, the sample is instantly named with year, month, date, time etc
this helps me a lot!
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Companies hearing complaints isn't the same as successfully triaging feedback into interative development. If this had been the case, don't you think we would have had aftertouch in Maschine after all these years considering the KKMK2 does it? Don't you think we would have had track freezing? Arming multiple sounds for recording audio?
What NI needs is a roadmap with what's coming down the pipe, and then people can act accordingly. Mentioned it before here:
https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/11419/#Comment_11419
If you agree, rattle the pots and pans about it.
Honestly, the Maschine has such an overlap of users from different demographics that it's really a jack of all trades and master of none at this point. E.g. aiming at "electronic" artists, yet no control voltage tools, unlike Ableton Live, or the modern MPCs. It's such a weird mish-mash of features at this point, with basics oddly missing.
Even KK. No zones/splitting in 2022? Wow.
Sometimes I feel like I'm exactly the user that NI is targeting with a feature, other times I'm just left confused by what gets added versus what doesn't.
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I'm with you. I'm glad they're going to take the time to do it right. I don't want to have to endure weeks of more complaining here that they rushed it out.
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You have to understand you are not the only customer they are targeting. Seems like you think that. There is a time to rattle the potts and pans, and they have been rattled enough atm. Take a pause from rattling from time to time, it’s not like we’ll get a roadmap or a roadmaptransparency at least at this moment.
just chill for at least a week or two.
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You seem to be assuming a lot of things. I'm not assuming anything is aimed at me, it is an observation that NI aren't really targeting any one demographic, it's a scattershot feature-set, and what they do have is odd versus what they don't have, especially when compared against competing solutions that have really come on in leaps and bounds these past few years.
I chilled for well over a year mate. I've been a Maschine user since MK1. Love it, but frustrated. Hardware is great, software leaves a lot to be desired in 2022. It's getting to a point where I'll likely get pushed to a competitor unless things start to change, which would suck considering how heavily I'm entrenched in NI hardware and software. It's a few changes short of brilliant, but what it lacks is becoming a pain.
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It’s a few changes short of brilliant, there we agree.
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To me it has never been an OR question but an AND Question because no eco system is perfect. Take the best functionality from every vendor you like and don't waste your time with interfacing their devices too much.
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I agree, but found the "as well as" thing to be counterproductive these days. Very close to just calling it a day and feeding Ableton Live with a Push (in place of Maschine VSTi) into Nuendo or Reaper to get non-linear functionality within a linear DAW with decent game middleware function. Two DAWs, but much more functionality in some ways.
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