I need suggestions how to get better.

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  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    Ahh… Gotcha. Thanks!

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    So I rebuild the track. It became a little bit more "busy" on arrangement level, and a little bit less "foggy". (I hope 😁). Thank you to everyone for pushing me forward!

    https://soundcloud.com/anatoliy-viktorovich-557939473/indian-summer-remix?si=1cf16d97a00140b7a6a86a8fa0028214&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,501 Expert

    To me, it already sounds better 👍🏼

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    Thank you. You are too kind to me. Don't spoil me, please. )

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    So let's pretend that I'm satisfied with stage 1 - Arrangement and stage 2 - Mixing, and let's move to stage 3 - Mastering. "Mastering" for me so far is to put Izotope Ozone on My Stereo Out and to run an Assistant. Mastering is done. ))) And it would be OK, if I wouldn't face one problem. Bass and kick are not "visible" (I don't know how to call it) on mobile (both from a mobile and if I in small cheap headphones). And Balance Control shows that low is over norm.

    So what is an easy way (so I could understand) to make bass and kick hearable (is it a word?).

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,501 Expert
    edited May 13

    Bass on mobile devices… one of the biggest problems of humanity 😂

    If you aim to an audience listening to music on a mobile phone speakers, I would not worry too much…: they don’t even know what is a bass anymore…

    Jokes apart, saturation could help a little bit. But don’t expect miracles…

    For the kick… compressor?

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    thanks. red here on blog about multi band compressor that doesn't touch lows, but pushes up low mids. will try on bass. but probably will build a new song. can't hear this indian summer any more. heard it already 100500 times last few days )))

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,501 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/226092#Comment_226092

    That’s a typical issue for producers.

    And one of the reasons why at some point you need new fresh ears from somebody else to judge the work you are doing ☺️

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    So I created a little piece of a composition. Big enough for educational purpose. Do hope they don't take me to a court. )

    I'm listening to it and the thing that pokes me in the ear is that it sounds like each track is makes sound on each own, they don't blind together and don't create something united from compilations of sounds. How I can fix this? I red about glue compressor in Ableton that looks like do just that. I do have Ableton LE, however I don't like the idea of switching to it from Logic, as I spent so much time learning "how to drive" it. I bet I can do the same in Logic if I would know what to do. Or with Izotope product. Please advise.

    https://soundcloud.com/anatoliy-viktorovich-557939473/test/s-EvWJ01ZwicB?si=12c4a7c4e737438f9475db143c5f98d6&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,465 mod

    When people talk about "glue" compressors they usually mean something that emulates the SSL G-series bus compressors. In Logic you need to be looking at the "Vintage VCA" compressor.

    There's guide to the compressors in Logic here if you're interested - https://www.jameszproductions.com/production-help/logic-compressors-explained

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/226234#Comment_226234

    Thanks! It looks like it's exactly what I needed.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 5,501 Expert

    I know you will say I’m spoiling you… but… is it you singing? Nice voice 😶

    And… you must have found a good way of treating the bass: this one sounds very nicely also on my iPad speakers. And double basses are not the easiest to treat

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    Well, he explained about all 7 compressors for all the instruments, but forgot to tell about bus compression. ) At least now I know that I need to dig info about Vintage VCA.

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member
    edited May 14

    is it you singing? Nice voice 😶

    😁

    you must have found a good way of treating the bass

    no, not my fault. it's Logic's stock double bass and it has ChromaGlow - Logic's saturator. I red something that saturation adds harmonics to bass that become hearable above lows. probably that is.

  • Anatoliy
    Anatoliy Member Posts: 48 Member

    Found this one very useful. Let it sit here so I don lose it.

    https://youtu.be/BOZuLfrw1gE?si=O1mFdK48JN5I_-vf
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