Incorrect chord names in Chords Tool?

oobe79
oobe79 Member Posts: 159 Advisor
edited March 22 in Kontakt

Check out the Blessed preset in the Chords Tool. The 5th circle (mapped to the G key) is labeled an Abm(add 9)/G. Umm, no. It's actually Fm9/G (a variation of the fourth inversion). Are there any others that are incorrect?

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  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 159 Advisor

    Here's another.

    Preset: Levitate.

    The first circle (mapped to the C key).

    Given chord name: C#11.

    Okay, first of all, there's no C# in this chord, and there is an E. So, I assume they are trying to saying this is a C raised (sharp) 11th chord. Based on how they name this chord, it should be a C Dominant #11 chord, which has 6 voices. Except that the notes in this chord are: C, E, G, A, C (8ve), D, F#. Which is the root, the major third, the perfect fifth, the sixth, the ninth, and finally, the sharp 11. It does not have a 7th at all. But, weirdly, it does have a 6th.

    So… I guess we should technically call this a "C6,ADD9,ADD#11"

    ?

  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 159 Advisor

    Preset: Long

    Third Circle (mapped to the E key)

    Given Chord name: Am11

    Normally, here are the notes in an Am11 chord: A, C, E, G, B, D

    Here are the notes listed for this "Am11" chord: A, B, D, E, B (8ve), C# (the major third), F# (the 13th), and A (8ve2).

    This is a AMaj13 (omit the 7th)

  • Ians
    Ians Member Posts: 15 Member

    Chords seems pretty broken to me. As well as what's reported above, if I try to record my own chord it gives me something completely different or only registers some of the notes. If I record a 4 note chord only 3 appear in the circle.

  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 159 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/217586#Comment_217586

    After thinking about this more. I think this chord should be called C-#11 (no 7,ADD6)

  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 159 Advisor

    More:

    Preset: Blues From, all circles: C through B

    Problem: All chords are described a Key6/9 chords. For example, C6/9, F6/9, etc. All of these chords have the flat 7 in them. Normally, a Key6/9 chord, also notated as Key6 (add9), does not have the 7th note.

    Correct: All of these preset chords should be notated as Key7 (add6/9).

    Preset: Bull, third circle (mapped to E)

    Problem: This chord is listed as "A Locrian Type". Why did NI choose to describe the scale from which this chord is based instead off simply providing the name for the chord?

    Correct: This is an Adim7 (no 3)

    Preset: Carry, fourth circle (mapped to F)

    Problem: The chord is listed simply as "Ab". However, it contains no 3rd, but does include both the 7th and the 9th

    Correct: This is AbMaj9 (no 3)

    Preset: Chill, fifth circle (mapped to G)

    Problem: ****** is "Gx/C#" mean? This is simply an A major triad with a doubling of the perfect 5th.

    Correct: A.

    Preset: Cosy, sixth circle (mapped to A)

    Problem: Same as above. "Eb 6/9" implies the flat 7th, yet no such 7th note is included in this chord

    Correct: Eb7 (add 6/9)

    Preset: Darkness, seventh circle (mapped to B)

    Problem: Same as above. "Gb Lydian Type" is not a chord.

    Correct: This is Gb7 (no 5)/F#

    Preset: Dawn in NYC, third circle (mapped to E)

    Problem: Listed as "C (add 6/9)/Bb". There is no A in this supposed C (add 6) chord, and based on octaves, the D is a 2, not a 9. Tonally, this is a Bb major chord with some color.

    Correct: Bb (add 2/6)

    Preset: Dawn in NYC, fifth circle (mapped to G)

    Problem: "E#(add 6/9)/Eb". I mean… Come on, man. That is just brutal. There is no way a human being provided that chord name. Zero. However, the QA and finalization people didn't seem to check any of the suggested chord names this ghetto computer program provided. If NI paid a third party for this chord detector, they should get their money back.

    Correct: Eb (add 2/6)

    Preset: Dawn in NYC, seventh circle (mapped to B)

    Problem: I guess "Gm7/C" is one, albeit weird, way to notate a Bb6 (add 2) chord. As bad as the chord names for this preset, it's actually a nice and useful one.

    Correct: Bb6/C

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