Why does Kontakt/Battery Automatically Loop one-shots on import?

Richard Vetro
Richard Vetro Member Posts: 20 Member
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This has been a re-occurring issue over the last 10 years.

I will import a folder with up to 128 ONE-SHOT samples into kontakt.

Kontakt will make a decision to turn on "Sample Loop" from the wave Editor.

I'm not talking 1 or 2 samples….. more like 60% to 100%. every import.

When I import the sample group in to Falcon, Halion, Groove agent 5 or Ableton Sampler there is no issues.

There is some metadata that is triggering the "sample loop" to activate or the software is broken.

This also occurs in NI Battery.. The same one-shots will automatically trigger the software to loop the audio.

Does anyone have a fix for this???

Can we bypass the wave editor with a script?

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  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 433 Pro
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    When imported the NEW .Wav file… It did not loop. It imported as a one shot.

    I tried to remove the all the metadata from the samples… That did not fix the issue.

    ???

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  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 433 Pro

    Wav files can contain loop information, but I would think it unlikely that there would be a need for metadata to say specifically "this file must be played normally without looping" i.e. one-shot. Did you click to highlight the 1 in the wave editor in your first picture?

    (Here, on Kontakt 5) when you load a simple wav sample into the Mapping Editor it will just play through, i.e. one-shot. If however you click on one of the numbers in the wave editor (default Sample Loop mode) it will set up a loop. You can formally change this to one shot and then batch change all the other samples, or just switch it off with the adjacent on-off switch, and don't click any more numbers.

  • Richard Vetro
    Richard Vetro Member Posts: 20 Member

    Thanks for you help Stephan, it is greatly appreciated.

    I'm pretty versed on using the wave editor.

    The loop can be manually turned off by pressing the yellow numbered button.

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    The issue is that when I import samples, they will import in loop mode, not one shot mode.

    Its' just not very efficient to manually turn off 128 loops for every instrument I'm making.

    I was able to find out that specific sample packs are more more common then others for triggering the loop mode on import. If I import samples from my AKAI sample packs. They will 100% all be automatically looped in Kontakt when imported.

    Anything from Splice, will never be looped in Kontakt on import.

    The same for Loopmasters or Sample Magic sample packs.

    So…. I believe there has to be something specific about the wav files and how they are rendered.

    I hope this helps to explain better.

  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 433 Pro

    So after loading, the wave editor looks like your first picture, without your having done anything else.

    Not come across this, but I have only ever (as far as I know) used clean wav samples.

    Most likely thing seems to be metadata in some samples (rhythm or something) which is either ambiguous or misinterpreted by Kontakt. You could either batch change the setting of all your samples in the Wave Editor, or remove the metadata before you load them. Windows will do this for you - R-click>Properties>Details>Remove…information. (If you're one of those Apple lunatics, you're on your own).

  • Richard Vetro
    Richard Vetro Member Posts: 20 Member

    Hahaha!!

    It's all good. I use Windows.

    I did find this out. I took one of the Akai .Wav files and re-rendered it down to a Wav file.

    When imported the NEW .Wav file… It did not loop. It imported as a one shot.

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    So it is definitely the .Wav files.

    I tried to remove the all the metadata from the samples… That did not fix the issue.

    As far as I am aware you can not Batch change the "Sample loop" on/off button in the wave editor. I have tried that several times without success either.

    Cheers.

  • stephen24
    stephen24 Member Posts: 433 Pro
    Answer ✓

    When imported the NEW .Wav file… It did not loop. It imported as a one shot.

    I tried to remove the all the metadata from the samples… That did not fix the issue.

    ???

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    waved.jpg
  • Richard Vetro
    Richard Vetro Member Posts: 20 Member

    That Worked!!

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    The cog wheel in the wave editor was able to transfer the settings to all the remaining samples.

    It's only a few clicks, which is also good.

    Thank you.

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