Request: HID with Phase Essentials

pARty_bOy
pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro
edited October 2024 in Traktor Software & Hardware

Hello NI & Traktor users, I would like to request to have HID with Phase Essentials, or just better "resolution" to avoid cue(sticker) drifts when scratching and beatjuggling.

Thank you, Looking Forward.

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  • 4roio
    4roio Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Please NI waiting for this for so long

  • Elvis Lewis
    Elvis Lewis Member Posts: 7 Member

    Been waiting a long time for this...

  • Scratch-E Con
    Scratch-E Con Member Posts: 102 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/8838#Comment_8838

    Believe me there is a world of difference between using Phase with Traktor or Serato.

  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro
    edited March 2022

    email/request NI for HID Phase on the link -> https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003345438

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  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro
    edited March 2022
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/8838#Comment_8838

    Why so? it really doesnt need HID . I tested today Virtual DJ with Phase using the RCA and there is no drift, it got perfect after setting "Timecode Silence" to 0.02 and it is just like HID in Serato,no Cue drift, amazing response/performance.

  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro
    edited March 2022

    thanks for the feedback, but like I said before, I think Phase doesnt need HID in Traktor, Virtual DJ performs very good without drifts and without HID using only the RCA inputs, meaning that NI just needs to "open up the code" like it did for Pioneer, and what I mean is that in VDJ the workaround/setting is raise "Timecode Silence" to 0.02ms wich forces VDJ to always listen to Timecode signal. so something like that must happen in Traktor for Phase to perform better. Remember that only NI Midi Controllers (S2/S3/S4) and Pioneer have the full Traktor Scratch Control, all other midi controllers/devices have compability issues and cue drifts on jogwheels,motorized platters, pitch faders with less resolution,etc.

    btw I can beatjuggle with less cue drifts on my Technics SL-DZ and they are +17years old and use the same CD/Line RCA Inputs has Phase do

  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro
    edited March 2022

    Yes I hope your guts will be wrong! yes I believe major users of Phase are nerds who love Turntables but cant balance tonearms, geeks who damage styluses all the time with their sloppy hands, and freak out once they have like ground issue.... if its just for mixing , who cares about cue drift? if it just for ocasional scratchers who scratch looking at the screen instead of the record, then Phase works great for them. for me Phase its not good enough, I am a Turntablist!


    I just got an answer from NI they accepted my request and it could be considered in a future release. so Phase & Traktor TT Users open a support ticket to request Phase Support and maybe HID or some better performance without Drifts


    Testing Phase & Traktor

    https://www.facebook.com/dani.pARtybOy/videos/221220576860493/ +25 min calibrating and switching radio channels to avoid cue drifts

    https://www.facebook.com/dani.pARtybOy/videos/668569520860927/ +15 min calibrating

    Testing Phase & Virtual DJ - Plug & Play and no Cue Drifts: no Calibration needed or Switching Radio Channels,

    I got some Cue Drifts at start but after I raised "TimeCode Silence" to 0.02ms it got very tight.

    https://www.facebook.com/dani.pARtybOy/videos/1017536272504173/

  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro

    then we agree to disagree, Traktor has the best sound algorithm, and the best slow scratch analog sound emulation ask DJ Qbert.

  • AlphA_ZA
    AlphA_ZA Member Posts: 2 Newcomer

    Phase is the only reason I switched from Traktor to Serato. If Traktor could improve on the sticker drift with Phase.....I'd switch back in no time.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,684 mod

    Hello! I just moved away from Serato and I'm trying Traktor and also considering buying MWM Phase, how bad is the drift in your opinion? Especially for a scratch DJ that pulls the records back very often, is it still as bad as this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQ65hj6yCo

    ?? Or have things improved since?

  • pARty_bOy
    pARty_bOy Member Posts: 184 Pro

    still bad like the video.

    email/request NI for HID Phase on the link -> https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003345438

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  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 626 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/12826#Comment_12826

    Hello @D-One nice to see/read you here in the Traktor Forum. Wonder why you are switch over from Serato? Can't imagine where are the benefits for you? Especially when it comes to hardware like MWM Phase or Mixers.

    Sadly it is like @pARty_bOy said. The sticker drift is still there. I would not recommend you to switch over. You better stay at Serato if you want to use Phase.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,684 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/13188#Comment_13188

    Hi, thanks! Well, that's a shame...

    Because I bought an M1 laptop and my Rane SL3 interface doesn't have any drivers for it, Rane discontinued all the interfaces, Serato also no longer supports them. There's currently no interface In production for Serato at all yet it's locked to authorized interfaces only. 🤷‍♂️ The Denon DS-1 is the only option afaik but it's also EOL so I reckon that drivers will stop coming soon... So I bought a used Audio-6 for 100$ to give Traktor a chance.

    I'll buy something like a Pioneer DJM-S7 eventually but even if I do sometimes it's more practical for me to just bring an interface instead of a mixer depending on the venue.

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 626 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/13269#Comment_13269

    alright, i see your point and from that perspective it makes sense.

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