Kontakt for iPad or alternatives

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  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru
    edited April 2022

    How about a clean sheet approach, with mostly a carry-over of branding?

    And only having an initial set of instrument in a growing new catalogue.

    Only "recycled asset" perhaps raw audio samples.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    Have you programmed something more complex than Hello World? Making iKontakt as whole new thing would cost fortune. And it would be targeted to closed platform at which one never knows what Apple makes next....

    And beside that limited interface, small screen, no keyboard, .....

  • Sedat Senguel
    Sedat Senguel Member Posts: 20 Member
    edited April 2022

    Well it depends. If they let's say focus on iPad OS you have, keyboard, mouse, midi devices, usb-hubs but I think thats not the point. The point is for example an iPad is a great creative tool for music production on its own. You are directly connected on the touch surface and using the pen to draw in notes in a piano roll or something is a dope experience too. Please watch some videos of Henny Tha Bizness or Haq Attaq. There already is a great community of mobile music producers out there.

    They (NI) could even think about a DAW/software in the cloud for the future like Microsoft and Nvidia are doing this with Xbox/Geforce Now (yes I know they both have a bigger budget). Let's collect some cool ideas for the NI people who could take our input and do some deep brainstormings and considerations how a mobile setup could look like. The discussion is not about replacing a system which is working fine (laptop/desktop/daws/plugins). For me it is another way of creating, exploring and having fun with equipment (iPad) many of us already has.

    Oh and for the iKontakt and the cost of software development etc....the software I mentioned...Beatmaker3 was built by 2 core developers and maybe some freelancers here and there as far as I know so there are possibilities to build stuff in a smaller setup. Nano Studio 2 was built by one iOS developer. So yes it is not effortless but it is possible to built great software with small teams too.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    If you do SW it must generally work on minimum HW spec. So, in case of iPad, no keyboard, mouse, midi device, USB hub.

    2 developers and few freelancers may equal investment of 500 000 USD. Maybe even more. And Kontakt is way more complex than Beatmaker.

    Might be feasible if NI provides Kontakt plugin for iPad. But full Kontakt? It would be much more profitable to make Traktor or Maschine for iPad.

  • EvilDragon
    EvilDragon Moderator Posts: 1,033 mod

    It's possible to build great software with small teams, yes, but it requires lots of risk and upfront funding, for insecure return on investment. I don't think this is something NI would bet on succeeding, and they already have tested the waters with iMaschine... So they already know if such a venture is feasible or not. Spoiler: it isn't, not at the scale NI operates.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert
    edited April 2022

    I rewrite my last sentence in more straightforward way. :-)

    It would be smaller loss to make Traktor or Maschine for iPad than Kontakt....

  • Sedat Senguel
    Sedat Senguel Member Posts: 20 Member
    edited April 2022

    Yep agreed. I would rather want to see iMaschine3 on iPad or let's say even a sounds.com/komplete now app which is compatible as an AuV3 that could be used within other iPad OS DAWs. That would be superdope and maybe it could bump up the komplete now/sounds.com subscribers as well.

    Well iMaschine2 is very limited and it didn't have the features like Beatmaker3 or Cubasis3. These two apps evolved massively and so could the next iPad OS thing from NI evolve. The longer I think the more I love the idea of NI making a sounds.com/komplete now app with the packs that I bought available on iOS to use in other DAWs.

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru
    edited April 2022

    Anything gleaned by testing the waters with iMaschine is obsolete. The device capabilities and opportunities in the market are very different now.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    If you think it is the hit, no problem. Write it yourself or hire programmers. You will become rich. Or broke. ;-)

    It is better to do things on your own than tell others what they should do.....

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    Great!!! Yet another argument not to make ports for iPad. Instead of buying MacOS Reaktor for 400, one would buy iOS Reaktor for 40 or so. Great busines oportunity!

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    @Kubrak So, 30-80 EUR for program that costs 400 EUR on Win/Mac platform. And lots of work to port it to iPad.


    @Mutis That’s not what I said but if you are happy thinking that….

    Well, you referenced to programs covering this price range. And so indirectly indicating what i possible pricewise on iPad.

    I guess there is not many, if any, programs for iPad costing 400, or so....

  • nightjar
    nightjar Member Posts: 1,325 Guru
    edited April 2022

    I don't have NI/iZotope resources.

    And isn't the point of this thread to entertain ideas for change?

    Why is change so scary to some people?

    It's inevitable.

    More of the same isn't going to work.

  • Maciej Repetowski
    Maciej Repetowski Member Posts: 708 Guru

    Kubrak just doesn’t like ANYTHING Apple, so he will be opposed to anything Apple-related as a matter of principle, as every die-hard PC fan should (in his opinion) 🤣🤣🤣

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    I do not like hype about Apple, but if someone likes to use it, why not...

    I do not think, it would be wonderful to port Kontakt, Traktor, Reaktor, Maschine to android as well.

    My objection is that tablets have rather limited interface. And applications for mobile platforms have rather low pricetag.

    Why should Mercedes produce Trabants?

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