What's the general status of Reaktor?

@Calagan It's working fine on my MBP 13“ on Monterey. While the performance isn’t bad at all, I hope a native port can squeeze additional 15 to 20 % out of it. It’s not really hard to max out a core with a complex Blocks patch.

Hi all. Thanks a lot for the answers/testimonies. I'm relieved because I use Reakor quite a lot on stage, and I just bought an M1pro to replace my old mid-2012 i7 macbook pro. Then I just thought about NI plugins and while reading this thread I was a bit scared that Reaktor was not very stable on the new ARM macs under Rosetta/Monterey.

I understand the native version will come in a long time, but I guess even under Rosetta my new machine will be like day & night compared to my good old macbook (pretty nice machine actually, specially when I read the issues people have with more recent ones, but the 16gb RAM limit and the CPU start to show their age when using a Live set on stage with 20 songs, many virtual synths and some kontakt instruments. Form is the worst offender for my present machine and my set uses more than 20gb of RAM so I get a lot of instability).

Anyway, thanks for the answers...

@colB

And I'm no Apple lover - can't stand their 'ecosystem', their shady customer support, bad styling, forced obsolescence, unrepairables, fanboy army... just doesn't work for me, but I'm not a fantasist,

Can I add Im not a fanatisist (if thats a word)? - and yet here I am a Mac user because way back when I migrated from the Atari it made sense to move in the Apple/Logic direction and there's too much water gone under the bridge to "wean" off Apple now. I would if I could for the above reasons and more. It would be nice if people here could see there are actually some Mac users who see's their Macs as a tool, not a religion. I also cant stand their marketing mystery hype that has people on the edge of their seat. So much I despise about Apple. As for M$ I could argue they're anything but squeaky clean. In the end you just have to say it is what it is.

This time last year NI was just a name Id heard of many years ago like many others. Id only used stock Logic stuff. Long story short, I went totally out and got K13 UCE. I haven't even really scratched the surface of whats possible. When I came to Reaktor I didn't even know how to get around the interface. As Ive poked around I've found there's some stuff I really love in this thing. I really hope Reaktor lives on, even if I never get into the depths, theres sounds ready made that are great just as they are or with a little tweaking. I hope some noob questions are OK on this Forum.

Its really encouraging to hear others say Reaktors working on Monterey, but I don't want to update until Reaktors officially supported. Im not on AS and can afford to wait as I find my 8core 2019 iMac 40GB RAM pretty capable at this point for what Im doing.

My short couple of cents:

x86 is an ugly, legacy architecture. I think ARM is way better, but ARM processors are still behind, not only x86, even ARM itself. For example, no mainstream ARM processor implements SVE, which means porting from AVX is a performance disgrace.

This is a slowly, peacefully sinking ship. Sometimes I feel like complaining, but there's no point. It is what it is...

And that makes it good for us, now in 2022, because... ?

Which is useful for us, now in 2022 because... ?

x86 is a significant part of IT history, and like the dinosaur it is, belongs in a history museum!

Unfortunately, it's very difficult to replace a dominant technology, because change is painful and expensive. Old habits die hard and all that... That's where Apple's own dominance is for once a benefit - maybe they are big enough to be able to force the change through.

It is a worry though, it's really important that PCs don't die out and instead change with the times! Maybe needs one of the big Chip makers (or a new one?) to embrace ARM (or some new ARM competitor that is not x86...). Imagine what Apple would be like if they had a monopoly on desktop/laptop computing!

It's also really important that old software companies don't die, and instead embrace change and put resources into research and development to keep their great products relevant and successful!

Verified technolody, lots of SW, lots of HW. Lots of experience design such CPUs. Good compilers. Not many CPUs survived that long, if any.

Yes, it may be difficult to replace x86. But mainly, there is no real reason to do so.....

Apple makes 4 different CPUs (for PC) and that's it. Take it or leave it. x86 platform has hundred or so differently scaled CPUs. Everyone will find what suits. More or less.

And Apple does not sell its CPUs, so it cannot penetrate outside.

Intel and AMD are able switch to ARM if needed. They already produce ARMs. But there would have to be a demand. Why would users want to switch to ARM? AMD notebook CPUs, if produced on the same process like M1 would consume about the same, while being stronger. So, the only advantage of AS are specialized coprocessors and faster access to memory. x86 may extend instruction set or coprocessors may be external addon. And DDR5, bigger cache and possibly more memory banks will solve most of AS advantages....

And by the way, x86 procesors are internally sort of RISC. Each x86 instruction is internally translated to internal almost RISC like code.... There is sort of HW Rosetta.

Let NI finish making Massive X working on x86 first.. :)

/uj