Have you really given up on Reaktor, NI?

Matthew_NI

It still requires Rosetta? Maybe the break proint will be when Apple decides to stop that layer conversion…?

Reaktor is supported on Apple Silicon via both Rosetta, and/or Natively. See here.

I'd also highlight this comment earlier in the thread from @Tim_NI

Reaktor remains a supported product and we continue to maintain it as a baseline.

Beyond this, we are in a research phase where we are exploring a number of possible futures for the NI synths portfolio (which includes Reaktor). We don't have anything concrete to share right now, but we are looking forward to sharing more as and when the time is right.

chk071

I wonder what possible futures there could be, apart from "We continue developing synths", and "We quite developing synths".

I'm not one to raise the white flag early and easily, but, I think I read "We have big plans for Massive X in 2025" from a rep here as well, and, we're already 1/4 in 2025, and, apart from a minor update, I've really seen nothing which would justify such a bold statement.

I really hope that NI will continue developing soft synths, because, they have quite a few big names in their portfolio (Reaktor, Massive, Massive X, Razor etc.), which would be a shame to see go. I understand the necessity of economic considerations, but, big parts of NI's eco system actually depend on the usage of such plugins, see Komplete Kontrol and Reaktor itself. I hope that it will still be worthwhile in the future for NI to develop soft synths.

Vagus

Ni Invested over £3m in Sound Stacks, before CMajor was spun off - and CMajor is used within NI (They're on record as saying so). Whether they're so invested in it as building tools now, I'm not sure, but that's a lot of money to write off.

Part of me hopes a modern Reaktor could do very well, but it's not for the feint hearted. It takes time to get to grips with, and while incredibly capable, software developers are moving toward LUA based platforms (Kontakt, UVI Workstation etc).

Now, if Reaktor was plug-and-play with AI assistance (create this for me), then it might find the next generation of synth pioneers, but right now, that's a very small market to invest in.

Just my opinion.

AbstractDolphin

It always seemed obvious to me that Massive X was less a sequel to Massive and more an attempt to streamline Reaktor for users the way Kontakt streamlined sample packs/players. The design language and modularity didn't seem intended for Massive fans really. Plus all the marketing spiel being stuff like 'designed to evolve'. It seemed the goal was to have a 'supersynth VST' that they could just pull cool stuff from reaktor into and integrate as Massive X 'modules'. (Arturia does this now with Pigments.)

If I'm right, it's a shame they abandoned it, but also kind of understandable. Still, I imagine they must have had some method/process for porting Reaktor blocks into Massive X quickly, so when they said they have 'big plans' for Massive X, I can't help but think it will relate to Reaktor in some way also.

Chet Singer

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/209284#Comment_209284

Has NI considered using Reaktor as a foundation for competing with JUCE? Reaktor Core is much more approachable than C++. Combining Core with a resizable GUI, such as Kontakt has now, could make NI the vendor to choose for people creating plugins and standalone audio applications.

colB

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216339#Comment_216339

yes, this is somewhat concerning

Kymeia

Can't see it

Kymeia

Yeah I don't have or want one

dreason85

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216505#Comment_216505

I can't believe it, have NI really given up?

colB

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/216545#Comment_216545

We don't know the details, so it's not worth speculating. It's unlikely to be good, but might not be terminal… have to wait and see.

Remember:

Reaktor remains a supported product and we continue to maintain it as a baseline.

Beyond this, we are in a research phase where we are exploring a number of possible futures for the NI synths portfolio (which includes Reaktor). We don't have anything concrete to share right now, but we are looking forward to sharing more as and when the time is right.

I think Mr Z's situation predates this message, so it probably still applies, but an all bells and whistles, feature requests fulfilled R7 doesn't seem likely :)

Z Gabr

Very, very sad

gentleclockdivider

Where does it say Vadim left ?

He's still working at N.I . , at least according to the linked in page

Kubrak

What if he just wants NI to pay him more? But anyway, almost anyone is replacable. And if Reaktor is well documented, fresh blood may bring new ideas and so on. Still it would be pity, if Vadim leaves.

Paul B

There's nothing which can be concluded from that linkedin profile. People change jobs for a variety of reasons. Not to diminish his contributions – which are significant – but he is neither the only highly skilled software developer in the world, nor the only one to have worked on Reaktor. The level of impact him leaving might have on the future development of Reaktor is entirely unknown and cannot be predicted.

Reaktor is a mature product. It could continue to deliver high quality sound for decades with nothing more than maintenance releases. I'd go so far as to say the only thing it might actually need (vs. people would like it to have) is visual improvements (scalability).

Sunborn

It might be wise to avoid speculations, especially from the moment we have "crystal clear" (…eh, almost) answers from the devs… or we can end-up with a massive "off-topics" warnings… 😋

What a person do for a living, or if he seeks for a second job or whatever, is nobody's business. Neither is nice to post personal information from websites that you need to be a member there to see them.