how to control stradivari violin in kontakt 7 with an ewi 5000 ?

fablovera

hello everybody,

I would like to know how to control stradivari violin or other NI instruments in kontakt 7 with an ewi 5000 ?

Tks for your reply ;)

Uwe303

Hello,

of course you can do that, the notes you play will just trigger midi notes, and if you set blow to cc7 you can control the volume and make swelling notes and stuff.

stephen24

You should get terrific results. There are a few wrinkles. Let us know how you get on.

fablovera

I agree with stephen24 a lot of weird results…. so near so far to reach playing fluently those kind of bank but there is some settings i don't know how to match with kontakt 7…

Uwe303

You could set the blow controller to midi cc7, just look at the ewi manual. Or if you just find out what cc the wind controller puts out you can insert an cc to cc converter within kontakt to change the cc to cc7. There is a ksp preset to so that, if I'm back at my music PC I can make you some pictures and explain how exactly to do that. I hope you have installed latest firmware and installed the ewi editor, so you can set all functions like you need them.

https://www.akaipro.com/downloads#ewi5000

fablovera

@Uwe303 thanks to your comments, yes i have the latest firmware 1546 and the ewi editor. I'll be happy if send me some screenshot if you have time ;)

thanks!!!!

stephen24

I wrote this a while ago on a Wind Controller forum. Might be helpful.

I have used a wide variety of wind and string instruments in Kontakt controlled with my WX5 for around 20 years. Once you have got got your WC talking to Kontakt (usually via cc#2, but any cc can be used), there are 2 simple key points to observe: 1. use the appropriate volume response curve and 2. always have some artificial reverb so the sound doesn't collapse to digital silence when you stop blowing.

There are 2 ways of controlling volume in Kontakt: the first is "Modulation" which gives a linear response curve and is generally what the authors will give you to control volume (often called "expression" for some reason) or if you are programming yourself you can "modulate" volume by cc in the Amplifier Module. This starts with a jerk and is entirely unsuitable for WCs. You should always "automate" the volume slider in the instrument header or the volume knob in the Group Amplifier Module with your chosen cc. Either of these gives a logarithmic response curve which is much more suitable. You can extend the range of the slider in the instrument header up to maximum (minus infinity to 12dB) in the Instrument Options.

If you can, control brightness (often called "dynamics") with the same cc# so that as you blow, louder notes are brighter. I tend to build my own instruments from good samples, and for dynamics I use just the brightest sampleset (e.g. "ff") and use 2-band EQ (4-500Hz and 18-20KHz) controlled in opposite directions by the same cc# as volume, to deaden the sound for quieter notes.

I add convolution to one of the auxiliary outputs so the sound continues a bit after you stop blowing.

This excerpt

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NKVVlG3_zuoiSM5VaYtBm9MqXsDaXKHJ/view?usp=drive_link

was done entirely with Kontakt and WX5 (apart from pizzicatos etc). Listen to the transitions between notes of the oboe and solo cello, especially the latter, transitions recorded by the musicians for Spitfire Audio. You won't get that realism (yet, anyway) from modelled instruments.

Uwe303

i would say you set the blow sensor to cc7 in the editor, then it´s controlling the kontakt volume slider as mentioned above, that´s maybe a good starting point + all the above mentioned.

fablovera

Thank's a lot guy's!

With yours advices, also with some settings in kontakt integration

https://www.native-instruments.com/ni-tech-manuals/stradivari-violin-manual/en/integration?srsltid=AfmBOoq-EBYcuhfKWsf_L3xihLiQFGhQbsMUgZ4-w5FUmzWv59uXYDXi

i've understand a lot !

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