Which software products are “not” compatible with OS Ventura?

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/89004#Comment_89004

If my answers came out as “insulting” I do apologize. Yes, I was sarcastic, but never meant to insult. My remarks were just made because you started answering people trying to help you and giving you correct answers calling them “my guy” and saying things like “did you read my post”, “seriously If you don't know the answer just say that instead”, “Really do you see that?”, “does that help to understand?”,…

And you were asking others to “compare it to a list for 20-30 minutes” (that, between, in facts is a work that would take you 5 min) making for you the work you can do on your own, once we told you that the things to compare are very few (even if you don’t want to admit that you thought that you had to compare the whole Komplete list of products, not knowing that only the applications can be or not be compatible, and not the libraries).

Maybe now you changed your way to write, from Mr “Gee Wiz” and “my guy” to the most polished of Harvard University’s literature student (or, simply, someone using an AI program to sound like what he is not…), but this doesn’t change the fact that you answered aggressively to someone that was trying to help you.

What I tried to do, after giving you the answer, was just telling you that the way you wrote things was just aggressive. In order to help you, maybe exactly because you are a new user. It seems to me you understood it, but instead of saying “ok let’s talk in another way”, you just switched style in order to prove your superiority. And make fun of us

All new users are more than welcome, and I try to help them as much as I can. And usually they say things like “thank you”, “I didn’t knew I had to check only this and not also the libraries”.

But…once again…if what I wrote came out as insulting, I apologize. And you are very right in saying that is better to maintain a good environment. So...case closed. Your suggestion to improve that info page is very valid. Just your initial way to answer to someone trying to help you was not.

And…once again again… Good luck

JesterMgee

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/88542#Comment_88542

Well before complaining about how others reply to your questions, maybe read your own replies to people trying to help YOU in how your replies are rather demeaning since you never stated once what you had read (links) but then scoff when asked.

If you would like people to respectfully answer, try and offer the same respect when you get advice that is not exactly to your understanding or accept people will be short with you.

🙄

MistaluvXIO

@JesterMgee, welcome back! I initiated the original post, and you responded, but there was a misunderstanding on your end. I don't consider it my fault. Instead, you took a somewhat lazy approach and asked if I had checked the list. Subsequently, @LostInFoundation shared the list, even though it was evident that I had already seen it. This raised the question in my mind as to why you were reiterating this, considering my repeated references to "the list" for comparison. This situation led to growing irritation. I found it surprising that both of you persisted in repeating the same point even though it was clear that the answers were lacking. While it's acceptable not to have the answers, it became bothersome as this repetition was wasting time and causing frustration. This explains why I kept asking if you had read my post, which has been labeled aggressive lol, as both of your responses were a contributing factor. Understand that both of you transformed a simple query into a lengthy, drawn-out ordeal due to a discomfort with my responses that were pushing back against being dismissed. Subsequently, insults were exchanged, with implications that I lacked understanding. This is understandable, given that I sought help in the first place. However, it was disheartening to have two Expert members making comments in a public space that warranted a response from me, as well as making it seem like I was not capable of speaking to you in a professional manner. Yes it was a flex, flexing on you for saying I didn’t know what I was talking about..that was the response that got you my Harvard voice lol. See this is why you don’t argue with people in the first place, it can be a trouble to recognize who is who in the debate. But it’s ok. It shocked me being told by Experts, lol that I did not possess the ability to write in an educated manner, which I found ironic, as responding in a professional manner should be encouraged, not criticized. The insinuation that I must have used tools to appear smarter was also quite audacious. This entire exchange occurred without ever providing an actual solution. It's noteworthy that @LostInFoundation did attempt an apology, though it still carried a passive-aggressive tone. Referencing my writing style as if it were from a Harvard student felt like a slight, considering the comment was made in a derogatory manner. Despite these nuances, if you perceive aggression in my tone, please understand that I perceived your responses as repetitive and lacking effort, which can be quite vexing on a platform like this. For anyone reading this, if you wish to form an opinion, I invite you to revisit the original post, followed by the responses from both of you. This will provide insight into why you received the replies you did. It's my belief that the way you responded played a significant role in the ongoing conversation. You should think about refraining from using belittling and similar responses like the one you might hear on a customer support call with someone’s grandmother, "Did you check if it was plugged in?" That’s what you sound like asking someone who owns a $5000 Mac computer and $700 Maschine MK3 and a $1200 S88 with the KOMPLETE Collectors Edition, you get my drift here? Maybe next you’ll assume I can’t afford such equipment lol but it doesn’t matter. I state that because your average person wouldn’t even own the Collectors Edition and even be here in the first place. It was kind of insulting in my opinion. I’m not here to waste time and play games in a forum. If you refrain from responding like that in the future, it will prevent frustration from building, simple.

Ultimately, this conversation has become unimportant to me, as it feels like a waste of time. I commend @Kymeia for offering the most constructive response, which has boosted my confidence in proceeding with my Mac upgrade. This was my primary objective from the outset. Feel free to interpret my stance as you wish; however, I will not be engaging further. I suggest reviewing the original post to identify where the responses went astray when dealing with a newcomer. Goodbye and good day!

And one more thing, it’s clear too, that the number of replies you have gives you a status of Expert.. 1800 more replies to other people and I’ll be an expert too 🤣. NI you have to vet for experts in a different way, because pure replies well, that’s not it. Respectfully. 😉

LostInFoundation

Deleted…let’s stop this farce

JesterMgee

Ok man, carry on, i'll read your essay when i'm on the toilet :)