Program Changes in VST3 host

MrJihem
MrJihem Member Posts: 5 Member
edited October 2024 in Guitar Rig & FX

Hi,

I'm trying to use Guitar Rig 6 in a VST Host (Steinberg VST Live). Unfortunately, I can't change Presets using Program Changes and the Midi learn is working with notes but not with PC.

Is there a solution ?

My workaround is to use Guitar Rig 5 in VST2 format instead. Luckily, I didn't start programming my presets!

Thank you for reading.

Jihem

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  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,856 mod
    Answer ✓

    Guitar Rig 6 does not respond to MIDI program changes messages, in vst2 or vst3.

  • MrJihem
    MrJihem Member Posts: 5 Member
    Answer ✓

    Hi Jeremi,

    No need to check, the issue has been fixed today by the Steinberg team. VST Live didn't handle correctly VST2 plugins with multiple inputs, like GR5. It's been solved today with the last pre-release version of VST Live (1.2.6).

    Best regards,

    Jihem

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  • Paule
    Paule Member Posts: 1,314 Expert
    edited July 2023

    IMHO in VST2 are banks you can select by Program Change. In VST3 are saved presets in a list on your hdd. So the answer is: no program change to single files.

    https://forums.steinberg.net/t/no-program-changes-in-vst3-regrettable-decision/122202

    No Program Changes in VST3 - regrettable decision

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,856 mod
    Answer ✓

    Guitar Rig 6 does not respond to MIDI program changes messages, in vst2 or vst3.

  • MrJihem
    MrJihem Member Posts: 5 Member
    edited July 2023

    Thank you Jeremy for your clear answer.

    I'm using a new Steinberg program called VST Live for my shows. It is a VST host and a backing tracks player. Guitar Rig 5 is the perfect plugin for my guitar as it responds to the Program Changes my MIDI foot controller is sending, but something really strange happens: the dry guitar sound can be heard any time, even when I lower to zero GR5 output volume. I don't have this problem with GR6 but I need Program Changes and the Loop Machine...

    No problem with GR5 in standalone or in other VST hosts neither. I informed Steinberg on the forum dedicated to VST Live.

    Do you have any idea of why the dry signal is output in parallel of the processed sound?

    This is not a problem of direct monitoring on my audio interface, and I made sure the guitar signal is not going anywhere else.

    Best regards

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,856 mod

    @MrJihem That's a weird one. If you lower the volume of GR5 and still hear the direct sound of the guitar, it could be either there is another audio track open with the input where your guitar is or it's coming from the settings of your audio interface.

  • MrJihem
    MrJihem Member Posts: 5 Member

    Hi Jeremi,

    Thank you for your answer, but there's no other open track and I'm not using any direct monitoring on my audio interface. I tested with different interfaces (NI KOMPLETE Audio 6, MOTU 828 AVB and Tascam Model 12) and on different Windows computers, and the same problem occurs.

    There's no other open track and I'm not using any direct monitoring on my audio interface.

    If I lower the volume of the track on which I inserted Guitar Rig, both dry and wet signal disappear. But if just lower the output volume inside the GR5 plugin, I can still hear the dry sound of my guitar.

    I agree with you, this is really weird!

    With Cubase, GR5 works well, but with VST Live I always hear the dry signal. May I ask you to do the test? There's a Trial Version of VST Live on Steinberg's website (I'm not allowed to post links on this forum).

    Steinberg. net/vst-live

    Many thanks!

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,856 mod

    @MrJihem Requesting a license for VSTLive. I'll be able to check this out soon.

  • MrJihem
    MrJihem Member Posts: 5 Member
    Answer ✓

    Hi Jeremi,

    No need to check, the issue has been fixed today by the Steinberg team. VST Live didn't handle correctly VST2 plugins with multiple inputs, like GR5. It's been solved today with the last pre-release version of VST Live (1.2.6).

    Best regards,

    Jihem

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 13,856 mod

    Hey @jihem Thank you so much for the update, glad that it's now working.

  • Mother_Nature
    Mother_Nature Member Posts: 1 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/84780#Comment_84780

    It does in vst2

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