HOW DO YOU USE LOCK MODE IN ARRAGGER MODE

Tame0121
Tame0121 Member Posts: 6 Member

how do u use lock mode when using clips is it a thing you can do i can just record the fxs in but use the lock mode would be better

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,026 Expert

    Can you explain a little more what you want to achieve? In doing what it would be better?

  • darkwaves
    darkwaves Member Posts: 329 Guru

    You can't sequence lock states. Use it to perform; not for production. It's another one of the decade old feature requests

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,026 Expert

    Ooooh ok…if it was about sequencing them, I do agree. You could add a “feature request” tag to the thread

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 2,740 mod
    edited June 2023

    Well... you actually can. If you really, really want it, it's possible with workarounds... like this:

    As you can see Locks are changing with the Clips (could be Patterns too) without me touching my controller.

    You can use the "MIDI Change" feature, which is designed to trigger Scenes, Sections, or Lock states via MIDI and basically feed a Sound/Pad MIDI Out thru the same virtual MIDI Port back into Maschine to trigger the Lock changes, MIDI LoopBack for lack of a better term.

    I did it with an IAC virtual MIDI driver, it's built into MacOS but there are free alternatives like LoopBe1 for Windows.

    • Set MIDI Change to use the Virtual Port
    • Set a Pad's MIDI Out to use the same Port.
    • Add a Clips with appropriate notes (starting on C-2) and you're done.

    NOTE: This is not possible on a Maschine+ due to the fact you can't have/install virtual MIDI Drivers, but it can be achieved physically by connecting the MIDI Out DIN to the input with a cable.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,026 Expert
    edited June 2023

    Nice workaround. The only problem I see with this is that it “occupy” the MIDI Change source, therefore you can’t have another midi controller assigned to this.

    Therefore: Lockstate “automations” OR manual. Or you have a way to have them both working together?

    (I mean not taking in consideration Maschine’s own Lock state switching of course)

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 2,740 mod
    edited June 2023

    @LostInFoundation

    The only problem I see with this is that it “occupy” the MIDI Change source, therefore you can’t have another midi controller assigned to this.

    Well, I assume that a user that wants to sequence his Locks States on an arrangement is not interested and also changing them on the fly with a 3rd party MIDI Controller at the same time but if that's the case he actually can.


    Therefore: Lockstate “automations” OR manual. Or you have a way to have them both working together?

    To me this would fall into the same category as trying to move a knob that already has automation, it doesn't make much sense and in most daw's will just deactivate the automation but yes, it's possible:

    • Simply set the Pad controlling the Lock states MIDI Input to be the other device/port and make sure 'MIDI thru' is ON.

    This way the timeline will trigger states, whatever external MIDI device will also do the same, and you can also record directly into the Clips too. With a Maschine controller, you wouldn't need this as it will always be able to trigger the states.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,026 Expert
    edited June 2023

    Thank you for the tips.

    Yes, I agree that doing it simultaneously would be an edge case (even if I’m sure some users could find it useful). My question was more about not having to go in changing the source every time. Sometimes you need it automated, sometimes you want to do it manually. Having the possibility to have both scenarios set up without having to menu dive every time is useful in my opinion 😉

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