Komplete needs a clean file management structure.

john parker
john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

I got a 4tb SSD the other day just for Native instruments content and was confronted with the spread of where NI puts everything. It doesn't make sense. I have my NI application folder and content folder. In the age of SSD, why isn't there an option to unify them?

It doesn't make sense half the time. In the content folder, there are a lot of sound packs and instruments, but there are also a ton of sound packs and instruments in the NI application folder. I could understand if NI was going back the logic that the internal drive will be faster for content, but Glaze (which is in the content folder) is under 2 gigs while the Scarbee Rickenbacker Bass Library is in the applications folder and that taps out at almost 8 gigs. It just doesn't make any sense.

I would like to see a unified location where we have everything in one folder organized by instrument, sound packs, and presets. That's another thing, why are the presets in the documents folder?

It just seems like there is a better way to do this. Esp we have to create a new user or, a myriad of reasons why this makes sense. I know I can't be alone in this.

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 3,953 Expert

    What if you set the content and application folders to the same path?

  • john parker
    john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

    Yes, but again, it's still nuts. I would like to see a folder for, expansions, instruments, presets etc.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,437 Expert

    It's probably a mix of a few things.

    Some products were designed over a decade ago and still use the same old file structure. Some products will have to install certain resources in a specific central point which will be the same between systems for code reasons or some other logical reason.

    All sound and library content tho should appear in the library location you set in Native Access, some things (like presets) may appear in C:\ locations but I can agree that if you have a heap of NI products installed it can spread it's mess around quite a bit, however it's just something to accept that some applications need to install some files to your OS drive, that is kind of what it's for.

  • john parker
    john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

    Presets I understand to a degree, but NA gives you the option of changing the content location so clearly, it is not required that this folder be on an internal drive. Lores for instance, is in the content folder while Arkis is in the application folder. These are newer libraries. I just don't understand. I plan on moving the content folder to the same SSD that the applications folder is and figuring out a way to move the expansions to their own folder as I almost never use them. I'm on a mac studio so there are time machine considerations to make as well.


    Cheers!

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,437 Expert

    Ha, yeah it's usually mac users that seem to have the problems, usually around space since that is a charged premium for everything.

    Personally, never really had a concern with where it all is as long as most of the bulky stuff is on a second drive and things work, that's about as much as I tend to worry, BackBlaze has unlimited backup storage so I backup everything on every drive anyway.

  • john parker
    john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

    Space is not the issue. I have tons of space both internal and external. I'm talking about load times. I have a song in logic pro that takes 5 minutes to fully load it's so big. Massive orchestral piece. you can hear the hd just going nuts. On the SSD, it loads very quickly.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,437 Expert

    Hear the HDD? Your OS drive is mechanical?

    Checking my K14, all my Kontakt libraries are all installed on the SSD I dedicated them to so maybe the HDD chugging away is something else? No way could I use a system these days with a mechanical OS drive.

    The "Scarbee Rickenbacker Bass Library" should be where all your other Kontakt library stuff is, are you sure it isn't an old remenance of a past install or something because content like that should all be in the same location:

    Seems you may have some other issue or maybe changed your location at some point but didnt move the old lbraries. Maybe try and reinstall it using the new path

  • john parker
    john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

    I never thought I’d see the day when I got hard drive shamed. My internal drive is ssd. My hd before I got the external ssd is Thunderbolt. That’s where the ni application folder was. Before I switched over

    there are no problems with the drive. It’s a sustained read when opening up a song that uses half a tb of instruments.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,437 Expert

    I never thought I’d see the day when I got hard drive shamed. 

    Confused?

    I was not shaming you, you said:

    you can hear the hd just going nuts. 

    and that it takes ages to load. You were saying that it does not make sense to have libraries on the OS drive and since a solid state drive makes no noise at all, I could only ask the question if your OS drive is a HDD.

    All I can say is on my system, the libraries are installed when I selected them to install so something else is the case on your end I think. Still unsure how you can hear an SSD going nuts tho...

  • john parker
    john parker Member Posts: 27 Member

    I said the previous drive. A traditional external hd connected via Thunderbolt. I guess that didn’t come across. No worries.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,437 Expert

    Actually, you didn't mention it was the previous drive, or it was connected via TB

    Space is not the issue. I have tons of space both internal and external. I'm talking about load times. I have a song in logic pro that takes 5 minutes to fully load it's so big. Massive orchestral piece. you can hear the hd just going nuts. On the SSD, it loads very quickly.

    So I am confused if this drive you "hear" is a current one in your issue or an old one that you ahve now replaced with the new SSD you mentione, if so does it have any bearing on the issue you hvae now at hand or was it just something you were mentioning?

    In any case, just move whatever library you find in a location you dont want it to be in, to a location you do waht it to be in and then use the "relocate" function in Native Access to relink the library, making sure to also set the root folder in the preferences for libraries to be downloaded to the new location.

    These libraries would only be scattered about if you moved or changed the install path at some stage, on my systems it is all where I have set them to be installed and only resource and plugin files are found on my OS drive

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