Mapping an F1 for Effects with an S4 Mk 3 " One of a Kind: Rebekah on modular DJing with Traktor | "

DJ Bigfoot
DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

Saw a recent you tube post by NI called

One of a Kind: Rebekah on modular DJing with Traktor | Native Instruments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfC34XH6i8Q&t=421s

there is a link for mapping for Allen & heath, but not an S4, MK3. Is it possible ?

Has anyone done it ?

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  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod

    ?

    Is it possible ?

    Is 'what' possible? What are you talking about?

    The mapping is not for the A&H (mixer) but for the NI F1.

    She doesn't use an S4MK3, but two X1MK3; hence 'modular' (small, separate controllers).

  • pixel
    pixel Member Posts: 316 Pro
    edited January 13

    I think he just wanted to show us the beautiful woman😊😆

    But the F1 is also great.🤗
    That's what I'm going to buy next

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    The Mods for the A&H are on the video link, free to download, done by NI apparently. I would like the same but for my s3 mk3 and to map to the f1 as effects pads…. same as in the video, but replacing the A&H with NI S4mk3.

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    S4, not s3

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod

    The mapping is for the Traktor Kontrol F1; it's not for the Allen&Heath Xone:96.

    You can swap the Mixer and the X1's for an S4Mk3 without problem. You just need an F1 to use the mapping.

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    Sadly i tried it, my new F1 just continues as a remix/stem and flashes which deck it wants to be when i power it up, i did import the files into Traktor4

    Confused.

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod
    edited January 14

    Go to Preferences → F1 Panel (at the bottom). You will find a setting where you select what happens when you press SHIFT+BROWSE on the F1. Options are User Map and MIDI map. Select MIDI.

    Now press SHIFT+BROWSE, which will make the F1 go into MIDI mode.

    Go to Preferences → Controller Manager. Select each of the TEKKEN Mapping files (that you loaded up) and set the IN port and OUT port (at the top right of the window) to the F1. There should be 3 or 4 TEKKEN mappings in the dropdown menu.

    Now move the 4 knobs from left to right and back, the faders from top to bottom and back. Press each button twice (not the SHIFT button). Now press the SHIFT button once (for the secondary pad overlay) and press the 16 pads twice each. → All of this is to initialize all FX and all mapping modifiers so they work correctly afterwards. You will have to do the initialization every time you load the mapping or start Traktor.

    Please also read the instructions by TEKKEN (at the DJTECHTOOLS mapping site, where you can also find TEKKENs original mapping [Rebekah uses a deprecated variant] as well as my own streamlined isolate-focussed variation) and also read the manual for the F1 (where half of my explanations are to be found).

    Please report your results, difficulties and success. 🦋

    Edit: links to the mappings and manuals

    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/652

    https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/6519

    https://www.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/ni_media/downloads/manuals/TRAKTOR_KONTROL_F1_Manual_English_2015_08.pdf

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    Thankyou for such detailed help.

    The First part "

    Go to Preferences → F1 Panel (at the bottom). You will find a setting where you select what happens when you press SHIFT+BROWSE on the F1. Options are User Map and MIDI map. Select MIDI.

    I cannot see where this is in Traktor.

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    For PC we get three files…

    Not sure, how or where to use these files..

    Help much appreciated

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod

    Answer to your first question is on your own picture, here marked in orange:

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod

    To answer your second question: the mapping files i am talking about are found in 'Preferences (so, the same window on the picture i posted) → Controller Manager'-pane. At the top is a dropdown menu where you can select each mapping file with a list of assignments. The MIDI-IN/OUT fields are at the top right corner.

  • DJ Bigfoot
    DJ Bigfoot Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    This didnt work for me, completely messed up all my settings on my s4. Had to restore to default - not even play worked.

    Would be nice if NI gave an easier option to do things like this with their own equipment.

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member, Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 3,138 mod

    What did you do, step by step? And please, no general description. We may need a button by button precession to find out what went wrong and where.

    There should be no way of messing up your s4 so it doesn't even register play (unless you managed to load the s4 mapping twice, which would cancel PLAY by being toggled twice).

    And make screenshots of all intermediate steps. Long-range maintainance is difficult.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,204 mod

    To be able to see the F1 in your categories tree, you must forst import the Default F1 mapping. I'd check that next.

  • Heinzhurz
    Heinzhurz Member Posts: 1 Member

    Hi, I'd like to pick up on that topic as well.
    I have changed to midi mode in the f1 settings. I used the "global" import at the bottom of the preferences window and imported Rebekah Effect Settings.tsi.
    In the controller manager, I imported the Rebekah Traktor Mapping.tsi and have input and output to F1.

    In controller editor I tried to use file→import from the top of the window (next to the apple symbol on a Mac). Then the .nckf1 file was grey.

    What did the trick was to click edit→open in the template part of the window.

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