Migration from 360 plus to komplete 15 ultimate + machine migration

manu404

Hi,

I purchased the k15 ultimate to replace my 360 plus subscription.

In august, I'll move to a totally new machine where I'll need to install everything from scratch as I change OS (win10 end of extended support is this winter, no other choice, will migrate to win11) but also the storage hardware itself (moving from pcie 4 and 3 to pcie 5 and 4 ssd). Meaning I'll not be able to just 'move' everything, it will be a new fresh install.

I did a full audit of what I use and need to plan that migration, but I might have some surprises along the way.

To ensure the migration is complete, I'll temporarily have to keep the old machine in a functional state until I can guarantee the new one load my current sessions without any trouble, allowing me to cross check everything and keep a working environment in case of something going wrong with the new machine and maybe that migration completion having to be a bit delayed.

From what I understand, having two installs will not be a problem in itself, as I can go up to three, as long as only one is running. And when I'll uninstall on the old machine, I'll get back the license seat dedicated to it. Is this right ? I should normally never need those in the years coming, but I'd like to be sure how many installation seat I'll have available.

Also, I'm a bit scared about how native access detect if multiple machine are used at the same time. I plan on having only one powered and running at the same time to make sure I'm not flagged as trying to violate the license agreement (and maybe loose my recently purchased product), but I might have a few days of switching between both, maybe sometimes multiple times per hour. Is there something specific or additional I'll need to do to make sure everything goes well from the DRM perspective ?

I know this might sound like playing with the red line, but if I remember correctly, native access only need access to the internet once every few weeks. Would keeping the old machine offline during that migration be able to mitigate the risk of being flagged as running multiple instance of the same product at the same time ? Maybe allowing me to ease a bit the verification of the migration process.

Finally, I tried to look after that, but without success: is there a way to revoke from my account an installation/machine, as some other software providers do ? Allowing me to make sure that old machine is not considered a working install anymore.

So, to sum it up:

• When I uninstall the old machine, will I get it's installation seat back ?
• Is there anything specific I should be doing during the few days where both machine will be used outside of powering off one before restarting the other ?
• Could I ease that machine switching process during the migration by turning off the network access ?
• Is there a way to check and revoke from my account the install recognized by NI as being active ?

Thank you in advance for your help !

Jeremy_NI

@manu404 You are totally fine. You can activate your products on up to 3 systems. The only restriction is you can only use the products on one system at a time, this is meant for the applications, you can't run Kontakt or a library on 3 systems at the same time. but you can totally have several computers with your products installed on them. You can do your migration without any fear.

manu404

(reading back, the native access needing access to internet every few weeks might be me being confused with other drm's, like the adobe one, or taking that behavior for granted, not sure NI access works on the same basis in the end, might be me, let me know. I can't edit my post…)

PoorFellow

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/46127/migration-from-360-plus-to-komplete-15-ultimate-machine-migration

When I uninstall the old machine, will I get it's installation seat back ?

I am not privy to how N.I. servers see all this but as far as I know then there is no 'official' seat counting in the sense that it says somewhere that you can check that a 'seat' is used.

Is there anything specific I should be doing during the few days where both machine will be used outside of powering off one before restarting the other ?

Could I ease that machine switching process during the migration by turning off the network access ?

I am not aware of anything other that you can do other than turn off one computer and turn on the other.

Is there a way to check and revoke from my account the install recognized by NI as being active ?

Not that I am aware off no.

Generally then N.I. appear to me to not be hysterical about this topic. They have rules for license use and as long as you do not abuse the license then I don't think that you are going to have any problems. I myself wouldn't expect you to get into any license trouble just because that you switch between using computers more times over more days. N.I. have license rules not to make your life difficult but only to ensure that N.I. business do not get screwed.

Other than official license rules that I will put appropriate part of below here then you'd have to ask N.I. Support (all) for any other details though in this case then it does not sound to me as you need that.

But I can try asking @Jeremy_NI , do you have anything to add here ?

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Ref.: Quote : ENDUSER LICENSE AGREEMENT , section: 3.3

Licensee may install and personally use the licensed software on three devices (e.g. one computer, one laptop,one workstation), provided that the said software is used only on one device regularly.Simultaneous use on more than one hardware device is not permitted. The Products may not be used on a network by multiple users, unless each user possesses a license. In case Licensee changes the hardware,all software on the hardware used must be deleted.

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Jeremy_NI

@manu404 You are totally fine. You can activate your products on up to 3 systems. The only restriction is you can only use the products on one system at a time, this is meant for the applications, you can't run Kontakt or a library on 3 systems at the same time. but you can totally have several computers with your products installed on them. You can do your migration without any fear.