Reaktor 6: How do I debug Metaphysical Function

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DanielW
DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer

The ensemble Metaphysical Function is great for generative soundscapes. But after I’ve upgraded to Reaktor 6 I get repeated warnings (see picture). Is there any way of fixing the ensemble? Or is there a similar one without bugs?

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  • drb
    drb Member Posts: 3 Member
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    This is an old ensemble that does use event loops. You turned off event loops, so it is complaining about the event loops that it is not allowed to run.

    Just tried on M1 Macbook Pro Mac OS 14.5 (latest) Reaktor 6.5.0

    HTH

    drb

  • dschiller
    dschiller Member Posts: 15 Member
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    Yes, i believe that is the issue you have @DanielW, disabled Event Loops. To enable them open Reaktor and Preferences (Cmd + , (Comma)) and untick (disable) Globally disable event loops.

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  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,587 mod
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    Quick solution

    Before you open the ensemble, go to Preferences and enable this function:

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,587 mod
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    Better solution:

    Enter Edit mode, choose your module, then on the Function tab, disable the Event Loops.

    Then, save your ensemble!
    Replace the original, or make a second copy in your User Content and always use this one. :-)

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    Sorry, still getting them.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,587 mod
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    Ok, then turn off Reaktor 4 Legacy Mode, if it's turned on

    i have no other solution at the moment, if this don't work either, lets ask @colB who is a more advanced Reaktor user

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    Reaktor 4 Legacy mode is off.

  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 857 Guru
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    Both versions of metaphysical function work just fine for me on Reaktor 6.5, PC version, with or without legacy mode active. I also have globally disable event loops unchecked…

    Are you sure this is the factory version? could it be a modified version you are using? Are you using it by itself, or as part of a larger ensemble?

    Are you Mac or PC? (this shouldn't matter, but the participation from mac users during the last beta were poor iirc, so it could be an issue… unlikely though)

    Is it on all snapshots, or just some? if it's just a few, which ones?

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    It seems to be on all snapshots. I’m on an M1 Mac mini, latest OS. Reaktor 6.5.

    And yes, I’m sure it is the factory version. I’ve reinstalled the Reaktor Factory Library and loaded both the A and B versions of Metaphysical Function from that folder. Both generate multiple warnings.

  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 857 Guru
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    Seems like it could be a Mac only issue. is that and ARM mac or intel?

    Any other Mac users out there who can test this?

    Does this problem occur in standalone mode? or DAW or both?

    Anyway, I would raise a support ticket - The factory version of Metaphysical Function should just work, and does for me.

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    > is that and ARM mac or intel?

    M1, so ARM.

    > Does this problem occur in standalone mode? or DAW or both?

    Both.

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    Let me add this is the only ensemble – factory or user built – that I’ve tried that does this.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,057 mod
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    I'm on M1 and don't get this with Metaphysical Function

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,587 mod
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    Is it possible to check all the pop-up messages and see if it is always the same error, or many different ones?

  • DanielW
    DanielW Member Posts: 15 Newcomer
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    There are different ones, though the same error happens in more than one osc, and more than one way. This is from just opening the ensemble in Reaktor 6:

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 2,587 mod
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    Ugh… 🙄

    so many modules… it makes no sense

    and, if is a bug, why no one reported it before?
    Metaphysical Function is a pretty popular ensemble…

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