How do I copy a Sound and its Pattern from one group to another in Maschine?

I have tried the Duplicate + Content + Events.

This works within a group.

However, it doesn't work between groups. So I can't copy a sound and its pattern from Group A to Group B

Maschine MK3, Mac OS Sonoma

Is it even possible? The documentation for the feature is out of date and doesn't refer to the hardware at all.

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darkwaves

How do I copy a sound and its pattern…

Sounds don't have patterns. Groups have patterns. You'd need to duplicate the entire group if you want to use the duplicate function for patterns.

It would probably make more sense to just copy/paste pattern data; though double check if it would copy automation/modulation.

Maxray

Yes, I knew that was wrong! I had done it before and opened up Maschine to verify.

In order to duplicate a sound from one group to another. Go to the original sound, hit Duplicate, and press the sound's button, it should be blinking as usual. Next, go to the group you want to place it in, choose a pattern slot, then hit [shift] Paste. The instrument, FX, pattern and automation should be there! The pattern button should be blinking, hit the Duplicate button again to turn it off.

darkwaves

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/155534#Comment_155534

Ok. So here's a screen recording.

https://imgur.com/bTdQ8nb

I add a sound to group a pad 1
I record some stuff
I hit duplicate, press a1, switch to group b and press b1 to duplicate
1. +events is enabled
It duplicates the sound, but no pattern is created
I press shift+paste, but never copied anything. It has nothing to paste
1. if I went into the events page in group A and did shift+copy and then shift+paste over in group B, it would create a pattern of default length and paste the events
2. It wouldn't paste automation. It's not shown in my gif, but I tested while typing this
I then create an empty pattern in group C
I duplicate a1 to c1 using +events
It adds the events to the blank pattern
1. Not shown, but it would also add the automation.

So this works if you are duplicating to a group that has a pattern. You may need to adjust the length of your pattern. It's better than copying/pasting the events manually (my original suggestion) because it copies the automation.

Psyearth5

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/31097/how-do-i-copy-a-sound-and-its-pattern-from-one-group-to-another-in-maschine

Try with Group and just delete sounds you don't need, it's not slow and it's simple fast process and maybe you will addapt it to your Workflow. It's fast and it's something we are doing and we go further towards the finishing projects.

Maxray

No, you have the order wrong… record the midi or audio. After you're done adding what you want to the sound channel, go in this order….

First, hit the "Pattern" button, then press "Duplicate", now press the pad you want to duplicate (pad should be flashing!).

Second, go to new group, press pad/Sound Channel you want to copy to.

Third, hold [Shift] + Paste, the pad you selected should now be flashing.

Fourth, click the "Duplicate" button again to stop flashing/duplicating.

You can now turn off the "Pattern" button.

Done!

You were almost correct!

When you press the duplicate button in the first place, you're literally copying that sound channels settings and all attributes. You have to let Maschine know you're pasting that content to a new Group/Folder. That's why you shift+paste it! It will paste it all! I tried it last night when I read this post twice and it worked.

The problem is, you're assuming that patterns are only stored at the Group level… They're not! They're stored at the Sound level. When you hit the "Pattern" button your telling Maschine what information you want to copy from that Sound Channel, the pattern and all instruments and data from that Sound Channel are copied, kind of like a tier system.

Maxray

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/155728#Comment_155728

If you're going to do it that way, you can click "Duplicate" and the Group button you want to copy, then click the next group while it's flashing. The guy who asked the question in the first place didn't want to do that! He wanted to be able to choose certain sounds from different groups and apply them to another group. This is just as simple!

Lionzinio

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/154979#Comment_154979

Hey there.

I think you are wrong. I can select a sound and copy both the sound and all its individual, let's call them bits (if you don't want to call them patterns), from all the patterns in that group and then paste them into another sound slot.

I can do this within a group easily. And on the hardware. Using the Duplicate function

What is hard to do and what there are no instructions for, is copying and pasting the sound and its bits from one group to another.

It should be possible using the Duplicate function. But there aren't any details about this on NI's site.

darkwaves

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/156442#Comment_156442

They're events.

When you duplicate at the sound level, there is a "+events" option. It will copy the events if you have an existing pattern. See the GIF I posted earlier.

That said, I'll let you and maxray handle this. Good luck

Psyearth5

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/155773#Comment_155773

Yes I agree with you but I wanted to give another way just to make inspiering answer which would in my opinion lead to conclusion/answer that you give, it is Equivalent to copy specific parts or whole group and delete unwanted part's and in that process I think that he will see that it is possible to duplicate/copy any individual part from pattern to sound with pattern or specific sounds and patterns ect.

Honestly I don't have any dilemmas about how to do anything in Maschine but I have been working with newcomers for a year and I was exhausted. For me doing everything in Maschine was a challenge less demanding then Video Games today but I understand how begginer is thinking and to what extent confusion can go. I wish everyone to produce anything that it comes to mind that with ease because then example I give here would be among many better results and Art is always in search for something New.

I am annoying with this crazy Feature. For me Maschine+ standalone Feature that enables me to morph between different 64 Pads/snapshots in keyboard mode. I can Automate every possible parameter and more than 10 sometimes more parameters at once.

https://youtu.be/VBxtVKEcN08?si=SHwbRAcTuml47vex

I am far far from begginer, this is less than 5 minutes but I love playing Saxophone on Maschine and I am practicing so it's 5 minutes for me.

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