Will there be a version 2 update to Maschine+ or only a version 3 upgrade?

MaikR
MaikR Member Posts: 311 Pro
edited November 8 in Maschine

As this discussion is running for a while now, I really would like to know if NI will (also) release the promised update for M+ version 2 instead of (just) version 3 of Maschine SW?

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/21231/more-information-on-future-updates-m

Why I’m asking? Simply because we shouldn’t be forced to upgrade to Maschine 3.0 to get the known bugs fixed.

From the ‘previous’ change log, so the update to the M+ that still has to be released: 

The changelog of the currently in test M+ update includes:

This Maschine Plus update contains the Maschine 2.18.2 App version

You should now be able to adjust sample rate and buffer size directly on Maschine Plus

New kernel version (5.15), which should fix the issues we have seen in the past with some USB Audio class compliant interfaces

Replaced the proprietary texfat driver from Tuxera with the open source exfat driver now available in the kernel

Massive has been updated to v1.6.0

So, will we still get this update? Or even better, to version 2.18.4, as that update was released a couple of weeks after the change log was posted.

[EDIT] As the original link now points to Maschine 3.0 updates, I’ve added this screenshot:

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  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,755 Expert

    This is really a necessity for all those customers who for some reason do not want or are not able (as in "my computer is too old to run the minimal requirement OS") to upgrade to 3.0 — when it finally arrives on the M+.

    Also, we've been now waiting for almost a full year to get feature parity (and therefore full Project compatibility) between the M+ standalone and Maschine desktop. Also related is the feature parity of Massive and Reaktor as it seems to be problematic for some users to get presets and ensembles created on the desktop to run on the M+.

    @tetsuneko might have some more information on these issues.

  • tetsuneko
    tetsuneko Member Posts: 766 Expert

    All I know is, as long as version numbers 1:1 match between desktop and standalone, maximum compatibility state exists. There are slight variations in bugs across versions, but yeh

  • MaikR
    MaikR Member Posts: 311 Pro
    edited November 11
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/189347#Comment_189347

    If that’s the case then a ‘final update’ to bring M+ op to par with 2.18.4 (or later) shouldn’t be any different from an update to 2.18.2 👍🏻

    So can anyone from the NI team clarify things for us please? @Matthew_NI @Kai_NI @Simon_NI what about this delayed but planned update for M+, is it still (first) to be released?

  • tetsuneko
    tetsuneko Member Posts: 766 Expert

    I think the next M+ OS update will be 3.0 compatible. It is not certain M+ will ever get 2.18 compatibility, and anyways, 2.18 broke some things which worked in 2.17, which also broke some things which worked in 2.16 and so on..

  • MaikR
    MaikR Member Posts: 311 Pro
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/190067#Comment_190067

    Yes, I know these are your expectations. But since we’re waiting for so long for compatibility and bug fixes (core), I would like to see the ‘final 2.0 update’. It was promised multiple times, and as 3.0 is ‘totally new’ my expectations are, that we will have multiple minors there, too. So every time the M+ will be one (or more) steps behind. So I would like to have a stabilized version 2 of the software integration.

    Besides that, version 3.0 is a paid upgrade. And yes, it’s fairly cheap, but I don’t want to pay to start all over again. As long as version 3 of Maschine Plus isn’t fully stable, I want to stay on version 2… but without the known bugs, including the USB interface class compliancy.

  • MaikR
    MaikR Member Posts: 311 Pro

    @Simon_NI (or team members) if it’s a clear NO, then that’s an answer, too.

    We all know that a rollback from an incomplete or unstable new version 3 could be very problematic (if not impossible). So I would really like to know, will M+ still get the ‘final 2.0 update’?

  • djadidai
    djadidai Member Posts: 480 Pro

    I have 2.17.4 on my M1 mac and in my M+. Running 3.0 also on my laptop. If they don’t make a 2.18 update to the M+, I’ll keep the 2.17.4 on the M+ and laptop for as long as it goes. Who knows, maybe 3,0 works even better and more processor efficient than 2.17. In that case I’ll upgrade the M+ too. Well just have to see. But certainly I agree that M+ owners deserve and are entitled to a last improvement update with some bug fixes and such to 2,18.4.

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