Battery 4 development

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  • Ojustaboo
    Ojustaboo Member Posts: 331 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/178959#Comment_178959

    Yep however, if I look at my vouchers, they all say

    You are eligible for the Steinberg 40th anniversary loyalty rebate. You can purchase a full version of Absolute 6 with a rebate of 70% off the regular retail price. Please click on ‘redeem’ to add Absolute 6 to your shopping cart and proceed to check out. This offer is only valid until October 9th, 2024.

    So if anyone wants to give one a try, I still have some left.

  • SaschaFranck
    SaschaFranck Member Posts: 153 Helper

    Well, I already got Absolute 6.

  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177528#Comment_177528

    Before Kontakt 8 was released I was speculating that perhaps an option for NI would be to integrate a Battery like UI into Kontakt, since Battery is really just a glorified sampler. Now after the release of V8 I'm starting to wonder that even more so.

    With the advent of Conflux and Leap it's more easy to conceive that Kontakt 9 might come with the new Battery update/substitute. As with Leap, and Conflux to an extent, the features were already there, NI just made them more immediate and intuitive by presenting them in a new UI. It's now more easy to imagine that they will do the same with a drum sampler like Battery.

    Personally, I would be fine with this approach. I would just feel a whole lot better about it if I new it would also import/convert Battery patches.

  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 122 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/179025#Comment_179025

    what problems are you having exactly?

  • SaschaFranck
    SaschaFranck Member Posts: 153 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/181711#Comment_181711

    • Limited to 8 sample slots.
    • Limited to their extremely questionably MIDI-note-to-slot choice (chromatically starting at C1). All your GM-drumming skills, all your MIDI files, all your virtual drummers, you name it - everything goes outta the window instantly.
    • No proper sample tweaking. No real filters per sample, no modulation options.
    • Lousy onboard sequencer limited to 4/4 and even note grids.

    There's possibly more. Seriously, XO is quite a huge fail. Which is a pity because their sample organisation "cloud" along with the "similarity" functions is quite nice.

  • oobe79
    oobe79 Member Posts: 122 Advisor

    I agree with all of that. I wish there up to 16 instruments per set, instead of 8. It would also be good to be able to toggle chromatic versus GM layout. I don’t personally desire any more powerful sample editing in my drum machine than what’s available. But I do wish there was modulation options. And I also agree that it would be good to have non-4/4 sequences and variable sequence lengths for each instrument track in order to generate polyrhythms.

    But despite all that… nothing compares to the librarian and workflow efficiency. For 95% of the people, 95% of the time, XO is going to help them create a great set of drums in about 10 minutes.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 12,402 mod

    Hey all, there's a new update from our Chief Product Officer, comments are still open, it might be the place to ask your questions and voice your concern:

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/37065/october-2024-a-community-update-from-our-chief-product-officer

  • Simon A. Billington
    Simon A. Billington Member Posts: 114 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/182844#Comment_182844

    Thanks man.

  • apricotandpearjam
    apricotandpearjam Member Posts: 86 Helper

    @Simon_NI @Jeremy_NI

    hi guys. just wondering if we could have a comment on the most up to date plans to fix the battery4 bugs?

    i've given up on development questions, i just want to know if the bugs which have been unfixed for years will ever actually get done.

    if you could be honest it would help so we can get some closure and move on.

    thanks!

  • Krispy
    Krispy Member Posts: 3 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/160678#Comment_160678

    Hi Jeremy_NI,

    I'd like to add my voice to those asking for an updated Battery, as Battery is one of the main reasons I bought Komplete - it's a great drum sampler, so simple to use - but it is really long in the tooth now. Yes, it has some bugs. The file browser is awful. Resizable GUI long overdue. Onboard reverb terrible. Too easy to accidentally swap out a sample, and no undo function…

    It's been 15 years. A Battery 5 would be very much appreciated. Please don't let this product die, it is still relevant.

  • Tom Collins
    Tom Collins Member Posts: 68 Helper

    I you read the October update I think what's said in-between the lines there, is that Battery will receive nothing but bug fixes from now on and they're looking at what they can build within the Kontakt framework instead.

  • apricotandpearjam
    apricotandpearjam Member Posts: 86 Helper

    Its one thing to read between the lines and another to actually get an answer on when the bugs will be fixed.

    We've been waiting too long.

  • SaschaFranck
    SaschaFranck Member Posts: 153 Helper

    Fwiw, I'm quite happy with Groove Agent for the time being (comes with some nice ready-to-roll patches as well, and at least they do care about GM compatibility…) and will most likely add Speeddrum to the arsenal one day rather sooner than later.

    Battery will only ever be loaded again in case it's used in older projects.

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