Is it possible to have multiple outputs through Komplete Kontrol plugin?

Two_Colours
Two_Colours Member Posts: 3 Newcomer
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I am quite literally just trying to sidechain my kick inside of Komplete Kontrol. When I make a new audio track in Ableton I see "Out 2-Komplete Kontrol" but I just cannot find within Komplete Kontrol how to route different parts of my drums through multiple audio outputs.

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  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,967 Expert
    edited September 29 Answer ✓

    Can't speak for KK V3 but seems confusion is afoot as to what KK can actually do and what you are asking (tho it is clear what you want to do…)

    Unless KK V3 has changed/dropped/ruined another feature, Multi-Channel outputs are a thing in KK V2 at the very least and do work as you would expect, that is for a Drum plugin for instance, you can select the drum elements to channels and then these appear on the outputs from Komplete Kontrol that you can send to different channels in your DAW. I do this already (for years) with plugins loaded within KK such as EZDrummer, Battery, Omnisphere to name a few and have generated NKS where the plugin is already configured with multi-out for some plugins such as Addictive Drums

    Example, here is a multi-channel setup for Omnisphere using KK V2. Komplete Kontrol should simply offer 16 channels to the DAW (regardless of what plugin is loaded, these are always listed as available outputs) and if you choose in your plugin to send something to channel 2, it will appear on the output channel 2 of the plugin.

    image.png

    You have to set the audio channels to monitor the INput and set the audio from for KK, then select the channel.

    Done this for years and if this isn't possible in KK V3 (which I would think it is), that is yet another point i'd make as to how unsuitable KK V3 was (and still is) for release…

    This is what you should see if you select the channel source for an audio channel as one of your KK plugin instances as the source:

    image.png

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  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 1,753 mod

    Komplete Kontrol doesn't support multiple outputs. Which instrument are you using inside KK? If it's Kontakt you could drop it directly onto the track and use the multiple outs from that.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,965 mod

    Actually KK does support multiple outputs, you can see them clearly here loaded in Freestyle

    Screenshot 2024-09-28 at 15.26.28.png

    However they only work with Kontakt multis - you can't (yet?) load more than one plugin and use them multi timbrally (longstanding FR)

  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 1,753 mod

    OK, Maybe I'll just shut up 🤣🤣

  • Two_Colours
    Two_Colours Member Posts: 3 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/180697#Comment_180697

    That is such a design flaw, I use Komplete Kontrol so I can use my keyboard with all of the preset knobs and macros why isn't this possible? I use a lot of drums in Komplete Kontrol.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,965 mod
    edited September 28
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/180780#Comment_180780

    It is because it can only host a single instrument plugin (even though later fx were added they are very much an afterthought and don't really do much still in KK)

    To be honest it is possible it could also work with some multi timbral single instruments, I have just only see it work with Kontakt multis and that is the only use case NI seem to have envisaged for it so far. But maybe someone should try it? I guess it might work if it is a plugin that has its own built in mixer like Kontakt has (Omnisphere comes to mind)

  • Two_Colours
    Two_Colours Member Posts: 3 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/180796#Comment_180796

    So like in my situation I'm using a drum machine called Electro by Teletone Audio, every drum has it's own output options but none of them seem to go out to a different audio track like I'm looking for

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,965 mod

    I don't know that plugin but there is some discussion here of a similar scenario with Battery

    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/10236/kontrol-vst-32-out-configuration

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,967 Expert
    edited September 29 Answer ✓

    Can't speak for KK V3 but seems confusion is afoot as to what KK can actually do and what you are asking (tho it is clear what you want to do…)

    Unless KK V3 has changed/dropped/ruined another feature, Multi-Channel outputs are a thing in KK V2 at the very least and do work as you would expect, that is for a Drum plugin for instance, you can select the drum elements to channels and then these appear on the outputs from Komplete Kontrol that you can send to different channels in your DAW. I do this already (for years) with plugins loaded within KK such as EZDrummer, Battery, Omnisphere to name a few and have generated NKS where the plugin is already configured with multi-out for some plugins such as Addictive Drums

    Example, here is a multi-channel setup for Omnisphere using KK V2. Komplete Kontrol should simply offer 16 channels to the DAW (regardless of what plugin is loaded, these are always listed as available outputs) and if you choose in your plugin to send something to channel 2, it will appear on the output channel 2 of the plugin.

    image.png

    You have to set the audio channels to monitor the INput and set the audio from for KK, then select the channel.

    Done this for years and if this isn't possible in KK V3 (which I would think it is), that is yet another point i'd make as to how unsuitable KK V3 was (and still is) for release…

    This is what you should see if you select the channel source for an audio channel as one of your KK plugin instances as the source:

    image.png

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,965 mod
    edited September 29

    I think it is - just a feature I am aware of but never use - thanks

    I thought it would work with Omnisphere at least

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