Using Machine + with Ableton and Madmapper

dnelson
dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member
edited October 2024 in Maschine

Hello All-

Just bought a Maschine + and I love it! I'm interested in sound reactive visuals, so I use Madmapper with a dynamic link to Ableton 11. Ultimately, I'd like to use Maschine + as a midi controller in Madmapper for sound reactive visuals but I can't seem to get it working. I can see the Maschine + as an input device in the midi settings in Madmapper, but the Maschine+ isn't talking to the software. I also downloaded the "Controller Editor V 2.8.2" and when I select the Maschine+ from the dropdown, the "connect" button is greyed out. So I'm kinda at a loss as to how to get the device talking to my computer. Video tutorials on YouTube say you have to be in midi mode on the M+...I am it still doesn't' work. I've configured the midi settings as per a few videos on YouTube but most people are using the MK3. Not sure if that makes a difference but I'm still lost.


Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated


Thx!

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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,588 mod
    edited November 2023 Answer ✓

    I'm so confused... You own a laptop, just take it anywhere with WIFI and install the software.

    To be more clear, installation is done on the computer, totally unrelated to the M+, you can leave the M+ at home while doing this, just install Native Access, it's NI's installation manager:

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/native-access-2/

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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,588 mod

    Did you buy an M+ specifically just for that? 😬

    Yes, Controller Editor requires MIDI Mode, meaning when the M+ is not being used in standalone mode, connected to a computer.

    It should connect automatically to Controller Editor, whats your MacOS Version?

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    Hi. thanks for the reply. No, i didn't specifically buy it for that purpose. I actually figured out how to get everything connected and talking to each other! the only thing is that i can't seem to figure out how to connect the M+ to the Controller software. I doesn't show up at all. (image attached) Also, Abelton sees the M+ on audio tracks but not Midi so i'm clearly doing something wrong in my configuration. I'm on a Mac laptop running M2 Max chip and Ventura OS. Another strange issue is that when i put the M+ in "controller mode" by selecting the "Channel Midi" button, i have to turn off the M+ to get it back to standalone mode. This also happens when i try setting up Midi going through the settings option.

    I'm sure the issue is in my configuration and not issues with the M+ 😎

    MPlsController.JPG


  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,588 mod
    edited November 2023

    What about the Mac Maschine Software appliication? Is it able to detect and connect to the M+ while in Controller Mode?

    Another strange issue is that when i put the M+ in "controller mode" by selecting the "Channel Midi" button, i have to turn off the M+ to get it back to standalone mode

    ? You switch modes in Settings ➡ System.

    Switching to controller mode reboots the device, think of it as the M+ internal computer shutting down and restarting as a controller On with it's own computer turned Off.

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    I don't have the M+ Software application installed. Someone told me the software comes bundled with the M+ unit so i didn't purchase it. Maybe that's the issue?

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,588 mod
    edited November 2023
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/107937#Comment_107937

    Maybe, while installing Maschine some other required important background service stuff might also be installed.

    You don't have to purchase anything. Just open Native Access and install Maschine SW.

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    ok i'll. try that thx!

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    ahh ok. i think one issue is that i'm at a university and the M+ must be connected via wifi to download the software while the unit it on the same network. not sure how i work around that. i bought the unit on amazon and registered it while i was at home bc u need to enter the wifi password. I can't do that while im on campus bc wifi passwords are centrally managed. so i guess i'll have to go through the software download process while im at home. another issue is the computer i want to use isn't easily movable. so i'll have to figure out something. they can't make it easy can they. 😂

    thx

  • 2A2E
    2A2E Member Posts: 42 Member

    Can't you create a hotspot with your phone for that? Just don't download the terabytes of samples while doing so 😜

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    I did that when I first registered the unit but I'm still unsure of how to download the M+ software. I already downloaded and installed the free packs from home. I'm clearly missing something bc when I go to the site and I click on "Products"..."Software and sounds"..."Maschine software". there's only an option to purchase or upgrade. Where/how do I download the software that comes with M+ to use it with a computer? I already downloaded the Controller software and that doesn't work. All the tutorials on YouTube assumes the software is already on my computer. Is the software "

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,588 mod
    edited November 2023 Answer ✓

    I'm so confused... You own a laptop, just take it anywhere with WIFI and install the software.

    To be more clear, installation is done on the computer, totally unrelated to the M+, you can leave the M+ at home while doing this, just install Native Access, it's NI's installation manager:

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/native-access-2/

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    10-4.

    Got it. All the YouTube tutorials I saw didn't mention NI's installation manager. I think I'm good, thx!

  • dnelson
    dnelson Member Posts: 8 Member

    Got it working! This is amazing!

    Thanks for the info. I'm off and running!

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