I hate maschine scene/group. How to use with 4/8/16 bar patterns while changing drum kit patterns?

LeoMajor

Like all I want to do is copy the 8 bars and then edit them slightly for the next 8 bars. But I can't change the pattern on 1 part of the scene without it changing the other part.

I can't easily and copy and paste the scene over to another group. Without basically re doing the entire "scene"

Like I miss maschine 1.0 so much.

Can someone refer me to a DAW where I can use all of machine sounds and actually make my beat in 8 bars at a time instead of whatever complicated ****** this scene/pattern stuff is?

I Know I'm not explaining myself well enough and I Couldn't be bothered right now. I can take screenshots later.

LeoMajor

Nvm I figured it out. No clue how I did it but at least now I can change the pattern on the "main" without it changin the pattern on the "intro"

This will work. That's all i want. None of these scenee/groups complicated I'm gonna have 8 seconds of my song have a hipass and 8 seconds with a lowpass and then 8 seconds with a hi hat with this pattern and then 6 seconds with a hi hat with this pattern or whatever the heck it's for.

I don't know why they changed it from maschine 1 to 2 like this but I'm sure it's better for most people. It's probably over my head but idc. All I need is something where I can write a 8/16/32 bar loop and change up the pattern throughout it. (I remember FL being like that)

If anyone has a clue what I am trying to say and some good tutorial videos to link for me for maschine 2.0/mk2 let me know.

Alsofeel free to delete this post

LeoMajor

This may look silly to some people but this is how I want to do it. (Unless I make a 2nd group of sounds which I'm sure I will eventually separate the drum kit from the melodys… I am just screwing around and learning how to use it right now)

I just want to do 4/8 bar chunks and change up the pattern of the drum kit or cut off a melody or whatever the heck I want to do with this format.

If anyone sees what I am doing and had suggestions for me whether it's a video, a different DAW, or to streamline what I am doing on maschine please let me know.

I don't wnat to have group 1 scene 1 trasition into group 2 scene 1 then group 2 scene 2 then group 3 scene 4 or whatever. That seems like complicated EDM kinda stuff where the beat is changing all the time.

All I want to do is make boom baps or even "Trap beats" (Not really) where I can change the drum pattern.

Like for example I love Appollo brown boom baps and it's pretty obvious he just uses like an old AKAI and samples some stuff then loops it and bam, you got 8/16 bar loop with the drums/pattern never changing.

I want in between the two. A nice old boom bap sounding 8/16 bar cook but I actually change up the drum kit and maybe even the melody (drops or some ******) throughout it.


Any advice other then learn how to use maschine 2.0 scenes/groups properly? lmao


(Don't mind the hat spam in the main part It's just me listening for the change, not to sound good lmao)

tetsuneko

So, you want to learn how to use Maschine 2.. without having to learn Maschine 2?

I'm confused

ALDREAD

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/227309#Comment_227309

in the settings , there’s a setting for linked duplicated sections , what happens when that is active , is if you duplicate a scene , they will be linked and any change in one will change in the other

So turn that off if you don’t want that to happen , there’s a checkbox under Default/scene/section

There also a setting to create a new pattern when duplicating scenes , you probably want to switch that on

Under default/ scene/section / duplicate/ scene and pattern

You can also unlink a scene by right clicking on the scene to bring up the scene menu

they are handy workflow features because sometimes you might have the same scene/section at different parts of your track , and you’d only need to edit one , instead of editing both

Once you’re more experienced with maschine , you may find it comes in handy

D-One

Or just duplicate the Scene/Pattern prior to editing. This way, you edit a copy and not the original. The concept is quite simple once you try it.

BigPictureSound

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/227475#Comment_227475

Been using Maschine for 10 years and never knew this 🤪. Still, isn't it easier to just use clips and not worry about managing 100 patterns with subtle variations? Well, it is for me, at least.

Clips all the way 👌

LostInFoundation

It’s quite difficult to understand OP issues, since Maschine workflow is EXACTLY created to have the possibility to duplicate a pattern and have various “versions” (with some differences) to try things out that then will be put into scenes (and from there build a song).

What I suspect is that this workflow is simply not clicking with you… and that you are trying to apply some other programs workflow to Maschine.

Like all programs, Maschine needs to at least have a look at how it works in order to be understood.

Try to have a look at this tutorial to see if things get clearer for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YofiWNwHhP8

ALDREAD

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/227832#Comment_227832

yeah I think they added that about 7 years ago

It’s under Default