Traktor 4.1 audio input can not be assigned to multiple decks since TP-18798

theprogrammer · 2024-12-15T03:10:22+00:00

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Hello,

I am pretty new to Traktor so I am not sure I am speaking of known issues. I am really disapointed because it is preventing me to do any serious gig with this setup because it is definitely not reliable, which is a shame for this level of gear.

Side note, I am a C++ lead programmer in video games (I was game audio programmer for 10 years) and would be really happy to help you if you can open source the 3rd party connection API of Traktor 4 :)

Not sure if I am speaking to the community or to NI here??

Setup:

Mac book M4 pro + MOTU 1248 + Traktor pro 4 latest version

2x X1 MKIII

Rane Twelve MKII

Mixer Xone 92 MKII (we don't care)

Issues:

Impossible to setup properly multiple Traktor decks inputs for the DVS control. It allows only one input. The last one in the list is the only one functionnal.
The DVS is super unstable. It always shows errors about grounding and synchro issue. It is super long to synchronize and very random to be able to start to actually playing from the Rane + (and the worst) it frequently drops the synchro and then you need to restart Traktor to be able to have it functionnal again.
Rane Twelve MKII Deck selection is not functionnal for the DVS control. It allows track changes and cue edit but nothing about DVS, start/stop and pitch.
Pitch is not totally functionnal even on the only "working" track. The pitch can change but the modification are local and not absolute, so if you change of deck or any song transitions if forgets the changes and keep the offset. Which is super annoying and basically a 3rd deal breaker in the possibility to use it live.

I am sorry to complain that much, but it is unacceptable to me, considering the price of everything involved here. I would like to mention that I like a lot NI but it is the first time I am that disapointed by quality at this point. I mean it is ok to say Traktor is not your priority, but in that case please don't show off about compatibilities with 3rd party expensive gear like that. I am regretting my choice now and wonder why I would keep your software.

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Martiniix_NI

Hey!

This issue should be resolved now with version 4.2.0

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Martiniix_NI

A okay, yes sorry I thought you were referring to the Rane Twelve Issue specifically!

Yes, the one channel input should be fixed on the next release.

Martiniix_NI

Hey!

This issue should be resolved now with version 4.2.0

rndm__

Hi and welcome to the forum -

to your questions:

This is a know bug since Traktor 4.1; Traktor Version 4.0.1 allows for multiple decks being controlled by of a single timecode signal.
https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/38078/traktor-input-routing-issue-for-single-timecode

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/38362/timecode-signal-routing-problems-in-traktor-4-1-0
A possible error source could be when the left and right cables are switched. Could be something completely different too.
One needs to route the audio timecode from the Rane Twelve to a deck. The HID support like in Serato is not (yet?) supported in Traktor
I mapped 'Reset Tempo Offset' to the pitch fader Midi out of the Rane Twelve (CC 119). Pressing the Deck A, Deck B, Deck C, Deck D respectively changes the Midi channel. Then wiggling the pitch fader on the Rane which is also mapped to relative of 'Playback Mode Int/Rel/Abs/Hap' brings the focus to the deck.

If anything is confusing, don't hesitate to ask. Typing this whilst a lot of other things are going on around me..

Jeremy_NI

Here is Traktor 4.0.2: Traktor 4.0.2

Don't hesitate to reach out to support if needed: https://bit.ly/NI_support_Traktor

Owner

I know this isn't much help to you, but the Rane Twelve MK2 have become completely unusable with TP 4.1. In addition to the faulty timecode signal (playhead skipping bug) and the "grounding problems", you can now only control a maximum of 1 deck with it.

I really hope that the new introduced bug from TP 4.1 will be addressed soon and that another hot fix will be released.

theprogrammer

Thanks for the message, it is good to see that I am not alone… Hopping the priority for this is high enough for NI dev team.

lord-carlos

Hopping the priority for this is high enough for NI dev team.

HA!

Well I guess hope is the last thing to die :)

theprogrammer

No wow or flutter, apart from this disconnection, everything is fine.

Owner

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/218561#Comment_218561

Hey, are you sure? I think he was referring to this known issue:

One audio input can not be assigned to multiple decks since 4.1.0.146

That should really be adressed for the next update and is overdue.

theprogrammer

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/218577#Comment_218577

Exactly, what I am referring to is a pretty major issue :)

Owner

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/225011#Comment_225011

Yes, it is! Thanks

Owner

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/198683#Comment_198683

I don't think anyone from the Traktor team would officially comment on whether we will ever get HID integration for the RANE Twelve MKII. To be fair, though, it doesn't depend on NI alone; RANE and inMusic would probably have to be open for it too. Ultimately, it will be about money for licenses, or something like that. I've been waiting for a firmware update for over two years now so that this annoying "playhead skipping" bug can be fixed and nothing has happened, I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to use these things properly with Traktor. I'm only keeping them because I can play with all the other DJ software and that's very useful if I want to try something out there.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/198677#Comment_198677

Can you describe this problem in a bit more detail? What exactly do you mean by "losing DVS signal"? Does that just stop the deck in Traktor or switch it to internal? Do you have wow and flutter or other problems when mixing?

theprogrammer

Yeah may be related to the new mac book. Cables are new, but will try others. My latency is below 3 ms with the MOTU so not a problem I think. I may try to increase the buffer size to be sure it is not related to that. But I never had issues with playback even with low latency. Will post my update once tests are done :)

pARty_bOy

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/198755#Comment_198755

next updates in Traktor should focus on fix DVS sticker drift for Phase Essentials and motorized controllers,

theprogrammer

Hello,

After testing again.

Good news, I was able to keep stable the DVS connection for more than 24h now. So, no more problem on this side. I changed for a new USB cable, I changed for a new shorter and high quality audio cable (1m / 3 f). I also changed a bit the audio drivers for push to 256 samples/48 KHz, ending up at 5 ms. For info the audio cable I had previously was very long (3m / 9 f) and latency was 2 ms at 64 samples/48 KHz, not sure if it could impact something.
Since the DVS connection is stable I was able to use properly the tempo slider without offset problem by adding the "Reset Tempo Offset" proposed by rndm_ (thanks to him). So problem solved too.
The last remaining problem on the last version being the fact I can only use the Rane Twelves MKII on one single deck.

So still waiting for NI to fix that, but once it is it should be "ok". Will wait for update you here, after the next Traktor hotfix is released.

*NI if you are looking for a beta tester, let me know. Thanks!

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