Is it possible to chain together sequences with Reaktor Blocks?

Interlooper
Interlooper Member Posts: 3 Newcomer

I'm looking for a way to chain together 16-step sequences with the Kodiak Shift Sequencer to create longer sequences (e.g. 64 steps) as 16 steps is quite limiting. Or are there 64-step sequencers that work with blocks already? I can't find anything like that in the user library.

Thanks,

Andreas.

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  • Sunborn
    Sunborn Member Posts: 2,185 Expert
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    Hello,

    KRYPT (from the Reaktor factory library) has a 64 step sequencer.


    It should also be possible to combine (in parallel) 4 classic 16-step Seqs, in a way that Seq 2 start from step 17, Seq 3 start from step 33, etc.

  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 755 Guru
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    Not sure that there's much point to 64 step patterns in a modular context...

    ...at least not much point in it being a Block. What I mean is that part of the point of modular is that the module can be controlled by CV from other blocks, and in that context, you really don't need 64 notes, 8 is usually enough and 16 is plenty (there are only 12 notes after all ;-). You generate variation and interest by building a patch that manipulates the various ways that those notes can be played.

    If you want a traditional thing where you write a melody, or bassline, and just want that to be played, you don't need that modular flexibility, so you might as well use a non modular midi sequencer and use the note in block. That way you can harness the power of a DAW, or some external hardware sequencer, something that is designed for that type of workflow.

    It's a massive shame that the kodiak sequencer doesn't allow A/B modulation of the shift and range parameters - it would be so much more powerful.

    It's also surprising that there is no sequential switch among the factory Blocks. That would make it easy to chain multiple sequencers together. I'm sure there are 3rd party sequential switches though. It's a pretty easy thing to build.

    ...anyway, You should be able to set up one of the non Block factory sequencers and connect it via midi to the note in block, then use that to create some longer patterns, just can't do it as a Rack, needs to be an ensemble. Otherwise, just do it in a DAW. That way you can use a Rack, and send in MIDI and have 1000 steps if you want :)

    Toybox have some pretty cool sequencing Blocks available if it really must be a block! They have at least one piano roll style Block that might do what you need.

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  • Sunborn
    Sunborn Member Posts: 2,185 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Hello,

    KRYPT (from the Reaktor factory library) has a 64 step sequencer.


    It should also be possible to combine (in parallel) 4 classic 16-step Seqs, in a way that Seq 2 start from step 17, Seq 3 start from step 33, etc.

  • Interlooper
    Interlooper Member Posts: 3 Newcomer

    Hi, thanks for the reply. I’m not an experienced user, can you explain in a bit more detail how I might set up say 4 kodiak shift sequencers, one playing after another, to create a 64-step sequence with a synth like monark? Not sure if it’s possible.

    Andreas.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn Member Posts: 2,185 Expert

    Hello,

    Actually i was talking about Primary modules, not Blocks. There, theoretically it is possible to be done, but i can't advice since i never practiced this case, 16 steps were enough for me (so far).

    However i got intrigued by your question and i will do some experiments in the next days.

    Maybe a more experienced user, such as @colB can provide some more insightful details.

  • Interlooper
    Interlooper Member Posts: 3 Newcomer

    Okay, thanks 👍

  • colB
    colB Member Posts: 755 Guru
    Answer ✓

    Not sure that there's much point to 64 step patterns in a modular context...

    ...at least not much point in it being a Block. What I mean is that part of the point of modular is that the module can be controlled by CV from other blocks, and in that context, you really don't need 64 notes, 8 is usually enough and 16 is plenty (there are only 12 notes after all ;-). You generate variation and interest by building a patch that manipulates the various ways that those notes can be played.

    If you want a traditional thing where you write a melody, or bassline, and just want that to be played, you don't need that modular flexibility, so you might as well use a non modular midi sequencer and use the note in block. That way you can harness the power of a DAW, or some external hardware sequencer, something that is designed for that type of workflow.

    It's a massive shame that the kodiak sequencer doesn't allow A/B modulation of the shift and range parameters - it would be so much more powerful.

    It's also surprising that there is no sequential switch among the factory Blocks. That would make it easy to chain multiple sequencers together. I'm sure there are 3rd party sequential switches though. It's a pretty easy thing to build.

    ...anyway, You should be able to set up one of the non Block factory sequencers and connect it via midi to the note in block, then use that to create some longer patterns, just can't do it as a Rack, needs to be an ensemble. Otherwise, just do it in a DAW. That way you can use a Rack, and send in MIDI and have 1000 steps if you want :)

    Toybox have some pretty cool sequencing Blocks available if it really must be a block! They have at least one piano roll style Block that might do what you need.

  • ErnestM
    ErnestM Member Posts: 3 Newcomer

    HI, I just uploaded Husserl Sapphire here, and it is easy to make 64 steps with it.

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn Member Posts: 2,185 Expert

    Just downloaded it, looks very interesting!

    Thank you :-)

  • ErnestM
    ErnestM Member Posts: 3 Newcomer

    Hope you find it useful.

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