Maschine& m1 Macs + Sonoma?? too early to update??

6xes · 2023-10-03T21:30:21+00:00

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6xes

just curious if anyone has tested the Maschine software in the latest version of the Mac OS Sonoma??

Is it too early to update?

i did see a notice on compatibility suggesting Maschine is not ready...

if anyone has already updated to Sonoma, can they confirm this?

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D-One

Yes, it’s way too early.

I updated day 1, so far everything from NI seems to work except Native Access. Latest Ableton and Logic works as well, all my plugs and software for non-music stuff. I'm on an Intel Mac btw, I have not updated yet on my M1.

Note that just because things mostly work for me doesn't mean they will work for you!

EDIT: Will update as I find things that don't work yet:

❌ Firefox
❌ Native Access
❌ Lychee Slicer (5.3.2 3D printing software)

6xes

thanks D-one

felipeazucares

I upgraded without thinking about it enough. I'm on a hi-spec intel mac - Komplete Kontrol works but Maschine keeps hanging. So learn from me and don't do it ... yet. Official word from NI is that its not supported. Does annoy me a little - these betas are about for months and NI acts like this stuff fell out of the sky suddenly.

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/99412#Comment_99412

Probably because this is how they work, announcing things 3 days before they happen. When they DO announce things…sometimes they just release libraries updates that break compatibility with previous versions of Kontakt and after the fact they tell you “hey…you should not have updated” and ask you to revert back

D-One

Things can break at every MacOS update, this is how it's been since forever. Theres betas for months in advance but Apple does sometimes change things from the last Beta to the Public Release, so companies with a lot of software tend to wait for the official release. NI has never been particularly fast with this, sort of understandable with their gigantic catalog of software.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/99412#Comment_99412

Humm... Thats odd, I'm on Intel too and Maschine works fine. Assuming you have a backup you can give a go a downgrading back to Ventura.

felipeazucares

Hmm, that is interesting, thanks for the data point. Seems to be that for me Maschine projects containing recorded audio hang on load whereas projects that are purely VST/plug-in based load fine. Might look at a Ventura downgrade if it takes long time for NI to catch up, I mean, that is a big undertaking, nuking my desktop and reinstalling ... yikes.

ozon

Did you give Maschine full file access in the macOS security settings?

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/99463#Comment_99463

Also I think people need to have a more realistic understanding of what beta cycles can and can’t do. They do catch a lot of bugs and help a piece of software get to a releasable state, but what they can’t do is catch every bug or anticipate accurately how it will function once released into the wild.

The fact is beta cycles usually involve a small subset of users. Users who are usually pretty experienced in dealing with complications and with solving and troubleshooting problems when they occur. They are also experienced enough as users to have a good understanding of how the app works, keep their systems well maintained and know them inside out, and when problems do occur have a constructive attitude to them rather than treat them as a crisis of major proportions.

So betas aren’t a magic bullet, usually the wise thing to do is wait a few weeks to see how things pan out rather than rush to install the new shiny thing

D-One

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/99681#Comment_99681

With the risk of sounding rude I think it's just tech illiteracy, from my experience the average musician is just not very tech savvy, theres a MacOS version nearly every year and every single time theres reports of people who updated and broke things. Waiting a bit sshould be common knowledge for any MacOS user.

It's beyond just bugs, Apple does have a insane amount of testers, their OS preview/betas are public but I can't imagine NI installing every MacOS beta to test their software against and make changes when the next beta could break more things thus making any prior work a waste of time, it's more sensible to wait for the final version and then do the testing, companies that have small number of software can do it and be more prepared but none of the big players do it, especially companies making cross-compatible software.

Im no Dev but this all just seems like common sense to me.

Doobox

I have to update to Beta OS's on pretty much day one every year for my software dev side of things. Im happy to say that this years Sonoma broke nothing I have seen in my NI library. And Native Access works as expected.

Running M1 MacBook Pro.

The only plugin in this list thats not working is Circle (as there's no vst3), and If I really wanted to I could have that working by running Maschine in Rosetta Mode.